Changed my car for one with problems!

judygarland

jase1 wrote: »

Hmmm. The main dealer should know what he's talking about. Take it back to them and give'em hell if you've paid anything.

It's covered under a 3 month used car warranty that they offer. To be fair to them, they have been very helpful and the service is quite good. They have said to monitor it for two weeks and then bring it back if the problem hasnt gone away. I dont think it can be anything major as I can still drive it.

colino

Get it back to the dealer, the fault wont fix itself and if they are armed with the proper comm tool, they already know what is wrong but want you to take it as a quirk of the car. Wait for the, "they all do that sir".
MAFs don't always throw up fault lights, they cause other parts of the system to do that because of their false, out of range, signal causing under or over-fueling.

judygarland

colino wrote: »

Get it back to the dealer, the fault wont fix itself and if they are armed with the proper comm tool, they already know what is wrong but want you to take it as a quirk of the car. Wait for the, "they all do that sir".
MAFs don't always throw up fault lights, they cause other parts of the system to do that because of their false, out of range, signal causing under or over-fueling.

Thanks for that. I will book it in again. From all of the replies I've received, I suspect that they have fobbed me off. It is not driving smoothly at all and is really juddery. I can only liken it to when I had a Metro many years ago with a choke. It's as if the choke has been left pulled out and not pushed back in again. I went to pull out of junction in first gear this morning and had absolutely no power to accelerate away.

Wish I'd never bothered changing my car!

judygarland

Well, the garage has now found the problem with the car. Apparently they have removed the cylinder head. I'm not a mechanic but my understanding is that one of the valves was not operating in a sealed environment. They have sent part of the engine off to be "machined at an engineering company".

I've completely lost confidence in this car now and it was certainly not free from defects when I bought it. I've also checked the last five years MOT's to discover that in September 2009 (three months before I bough it) it failed on emissions and an advisory note was issued which read "engine missfire and management warning lift on during test".

I've spoken to the salesman who I bought it from and told him that I want a replacement car and he has asked me to come into the garage. He then said "we will have to value your car and see what we have in stock".

Not happy. Am about to read up on my rights!

atrixblue.-MFR-.

to be fair the garage has been helpfull and ARE rectifying the problem. it should be fine after all work done wich your not paying for and a valve replacement and stems (woundering why its being machined though dont usually do that unless HG failure (head gasket) perhaps the valve seat needs to be re ground and polished). ask for an extended warranty for your troubles, SOGA is what your emplying but the garage are more than welcome to reject that as they ARE rectifying the problem you inherrited and are being fair with you. they cannot value your car and see what they have, and deduct under SOGA either a put off tactic to prevent you doing the SOGA bit to make you think you'll lose money. i would have a in depth chat with manager and take away the very least an extended warranty. you wont be able to reject it due to lost confidence in the car either, thats like saying you dont like it take it back in wich case they will but as a trade in part ex for another and you will lose money.

i would stick with it the car is being repaired, after wich may give you no problems at all.

colino

Is it a low mileager? Could have been so coddled and driven with a feather foot that the valve guides carboned up. Not a fault I've seen on Skodas though.

vaio

jase1 wrote: »

That's why I said MAF. There are a lot of reasons this could be happening but the most common "cleanable" cause tends to be the MAF, which is, in effect, a valve......

Nah, Mass Air Flow is a sensor that measures the amount of air going into the engine. Nothing like a valve

asbokid

vaio wrote: »

Nah, Mass Air Flow is a sensor that measures the amount of air going into the engine. Nothing like a valve

Read to the end, you naughty man.

Sounds like a bad fault. Stripping down the head and re-seating valves is a major job. The garage must really want the OP to keep that car.

BillTrac

Must be just me, but I am confused.

OP bought a four year old car in January, but has the last 5 years MOTs? Then says it failed in Sept 09 which was 3 months before purchase. Surely a four year old car would only have one MOT so far.

I assume we are talking about the same car...:rotfl:

vaio

asbokid wrote: »

Read to the end, you naughty man.......

Read my post you impatient kid , Jase said MAF was “in effect a valve”, it’s not, it’s a sensor that measures mass air flow.

asbokid wrote: »

.....Sounds like a bad fault. Stripping down the head and re-seating valves is a major job. The garage must really want the OP to keep that car.

Or maybe they are one of the (rare?) good dealers who are doing what is necessary to fix the car properly?

OP…..Sounds like you have a burnt exhaust valve seat and the garage have sent it off to have the seat re-cut. They will then reassemble with new or refaced valve and the car should be good as new.

Ideally they would do all the valves whilst it's apart but that might be pushing it a bit for a warranty repair, on the other hand it might be worth a phone call to see if you can talk them into doing them all as compensation for the inconvenience/trouble you’ve had.

Either way the repaired car should be fine and it sounds like you have got a decent dealer.