Herbal remedies face licence rule

annie123

I have tried to find a list and failed so far. I too would like to have the option to grow my own.

sarahjayne1977

This is totally old news. The EU been bring this in for about 6 years.
As far as i know some will be lost, A lot will have strengths limited to RDA. A lot of herbs will be able to be sold but will need to have a lience on which costs thousands, thats thousands of pound per herb aswell.

cootambear

sarahjayne1977 wrote: »

This is totally old news. The EU been bring this in for about 6 years.
As far as i know some will be lost, A lot will have strengths limited to RDA. A lot of herbs will be able to be sold but will need to have a lience on which costs thousands, thats thousands of pound per herb aswell.

Plus of course you will be able to grow your own. Or sell it at a market, as long as you dont make health claims, just sell it as a fresh herb - those who believe in the benefits would buy it.

Hey, this is a chance for smallholders to make some money at the expense of the Big Quack Millionaires.

You heard it here first.

sarahjayne1977

cootambear wrote: »

Plus of course you will be able to grow your own. Or sell it at a market, as long as you dont make health claims, just sell it as a fresh herb - those who believe in the benefits would buy it.

Hey, this is a chance for smallholders to make some money at the expense of the Big Quack Millionaires.

You heard it here first.

Yup you could grown your own. I can say a lot of the herbs you can buy in shops work, I have bought and tried loads myself. I have also recommended loads as i work in the emm field a such.
I am on maternity leave at min so not sure whats happened within the last year, but due back soon though.

A._Badger

cootambear wrote: »

There is a world of difference between research in to organic compounds, and herbalism being taught at universities. Frankly it is a disgrace that pseudoscience is being `taught` at some universities.It is a disgrace that £2m of taxpayers money funded a `homeopathic hospital` in London..

Yes, much as I suspected. You fail to understand the difference between herbal medicine and homoepathy- wildly conflating the two here.

FYI, the figure of NCE's ('new chemical entities') used in drugs launched on the market between 1981 and 2002 was calculated at 52 per cent by researchers at Ohio State University and Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy, College of Pharmacy, University of Illinois at Chicago.

The 25 per cent figure you quote is open to dispute. AFAIAA, the above isn't.

Your statement that 'herbalism isn't medicine' is, I repeat, nonsense.

A._Badger

sarahjayne1977 wrote: »

This is totally old news. The EU been bring this in for about 6 years.
As far as i know some will be lost, A lot will have strengths limited to RDA. A lot of herbs will be able to be sold but will need to have a lience on which costs thousands, thats thousands of pound per herb aswell.

What isn't old news (and is why the BBC finally got round to covering it last week) is that the EU's diktat becomes effective from this coming April.

sarahjayne1977

A._Badger wrote: »

What isn't old news (and is why the BBC finally got round to covering it last week) is that the EU's diktat becomes effective from this coming April.

Companys including the company i work for, have been fighting to stop it coming into UK since about 2004/5. Read this link from June 2005 from the Independent shows its been going on for years!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/blair-opposes-eus-directive-to-outlaw-up-to-5000-vitamins-497046.html

It also has a list of products that will be affected for OP

sarahjayne1977

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4670971.stm 12th July 2005 report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3027026.stm 30th June 2003

so as you can see very old news been going to happen since 2003

cootambear

A._Badger wrote: »

Yes, much as I suspected. You fail to understand the difference between herbal medicine and homoepathy- wildly conflating the two here.

FYI, the figure of NCE's ('new chemical entities') used in drugs launched on the market between 1981 and 2002 was calculated at 52 per cent by researchers at Ohio State University and Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy, College of Pharmacy, University of Illinois at Chicago.

The 25 per cent figure you quote is open to dispute. AFAIAA, the above isn't.

Your statement that 'herbalism isn't medicine' is, I repeat, nonsense.

It may be 25, 50 or 100, it doesnt matter. I was merely making the point that medicine does not shun plant compounds.

Herbalism is not medicine. I will concede that it is better than homeopathy, which sells people tiny bottles of water at ridiculous prices (where did perrier get their ideas from?), because some of its products DO work (due to the chemicals in them), however it is not medicine because it does not accept the rationale or subject itself to the rigorous testing that drugs do.

Let me ask a question

If one of your family (god forbid) had an illness like AIDS or bone cancer, would you phone the GP, or the herbalist?

cootambear

sarahjayne1977 wrote: »

Companys including the company i work for, have been fighting to stop it coming into UK since about 2004/5. Read this link from June 2005 from the Independent shows its been going on for years!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/blair-opposes-eus-directive-to-outlaw-up-to-5000-vitamins-497046.html

It also has a list of products that will be affected for OP

Cherie Blair. possibly (if its possible) more bonkers than her husband who killed half a million Iraquis based on lies.