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HELP NEEDED: LIDL- parking fine which is'nt the case.

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Need some advice for the family. My sister received a parking fine for apparently parking in the lidl for over 2 hours which did'nt.

To give you a bigger picture, the lidl supermarket has to entrance / exits to get into the lidl. What she did was one morning cut through the supermarket 2 hours earlier through the supermarket. 2 hours later did the same.

The camera has somehow taking the note that she has been parking for over 2 hours. Which she did not. Now what can she do?

How can she prove that she only drove through the supermarket twice and not parked in the car park?

My sister would rather pay the £45 than go through this rubbish. But I believe it is a matter of principle as she did not do this.

She only originally went through this cut way path because the main road (i.e. slope) was full of snow and had to cut through this path. To note, alot of people do this every day.

Any ideas?
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  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    You don't need to prove or do anything.

    Ignore everything you get from the parking company.

    Go onto the travel forum and find sub-forum Parking tickets. read the stickies and you'll see that these 'tickets' are rubbish and are never enforced.

    The worst you get is a series of legal threatening letters...which never go anywhere.

    Relax and enjoy the good news!!!
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why then you're as thick and stupid as the moderators on here - MSE ForumTeam
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Oopsadaisy wrote: »
    You don't need to prove or do anything.

    Ignore everything you get from the parking company.

    Go onto the travel forum and find sub-forum Parking tickets. read the stickies and you'll see that these 'tickets' are rubbish and are never enforced.

    The worst you get is a series of legal threatening letters...which never go anywhere.

    Relax and enjoy the good news!!!

    Motor Forum, but the rest of the advice is sport on
  • Driver8
    Driver8 Posts: 743 Forumite
    Need some advice for the family. My sister received a parking fine for apparently parking in the lidl for over 2 hours which did'nt.

    To give you a bigger picture, the lidl supermarket has to entrance / exits to get into the lidl. What she did was one morning cut through the supermarket 2 hours earlier through the supermarket. 2 hours later did the same.

    The camera has somehow taking the note that she has been parking for over 2 hours. Which she did not. Now what can she do?

    How can she prove that she only drove through the supermarket twice and not parked in the car park?

    My sister would rather pay the £45 than go through this rubbish. But I believe it is a matter of principle as she did not do this.

    She only originally went through this cut way path because the main road (i.e. slope) was full of snow and had to cut through this path. To note, alot of people do this every day.

    Any ideas?




    PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
    IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!

    This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.

    We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.

    For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

    1. What you should know about these companies

    It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.


    2. What happens to people who don't pay?

    In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.

    The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:

    - Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.

    -Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.


    3. Can they affect my credit rating?

    NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.


    IN SHORT

    The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.

    The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.

    You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.

    DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
    If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.



    Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

    THEY ARE NOT FINES

    Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.
  • d123
    d123 Posts: 8,730 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Need some advice for the family. My sister received a parking fine

    No, she didn't.
    Any ideas?

    Search the forum for advice? In fact, here you are, all the advice you will need about unsolicited invoices:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
    ====
  • PZH
    PZH Posts: 1,599 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    How can she prove that she only drove through the supermarket twice and not parked in the car park?

    Don't even bother trying - there will be NO appeal process (Despite what the paperwork may tell you).
    My sister would rather pay the £45 than go through this rubbish.....

    That is the worse thing she could possibly do.
    Any ideas?

    Read the Parking Fine section. Do NOTHING. Do not reply and totally ignore ALL letters, threats, intimidation, etc.
    “That old law about 'an eye for an eye' leaves everybody blind. The time is always right to do the right thing.”
  • marleyboy
    marleyboy Posts: 16,698 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Place this in your front windscreen next time you park -

    penalty-charge-notice-parking-fine.jpg
    :A:dance:1+1+1=1:dance::A
    "Marleyboy you are a legend!"
    MarleyBoy "You are the Greatest"
    Marleyboy You Are A Legend!
    Marleyboy speaks sense
    marleyboy (total legend)
    Marleyboy - You are, indeed, a legend.
  • montymud
    montymud Posts: 1,015 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Well I didn't know that any of this was the case so thank you for all the posters on this board. Good information to know, cheers and marleyboy, I love your post lol!
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Home Insurance Hacker! Car Insurance Carver!
    Work out the total damages the landowner endured for your sister's "trespass", the answer is one of these 3 amounts:
    1 - Zero
    2 - 10 million pounds
    3 - 35 billion pounds

    Just ignore and wait for the lovely paper air-planes to come flying in, in the shape of letters from "debt" collectors.

    (The answer to my question is 1, zero)
  • When your sister gets the next payment demand for the "ticket", tell her to return it and ask if they could send another copy on more absorbent, perforated paper so that she can put it to good use.
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