Cost Per Litre

HappyMJ

Sir_Alan wrote: »

I laid a 500ml plastic drink bottle in the floor of the cistern. Just removed the label and filled to the brim with cold water. I didn't bother to work out how much it will save, but it cost nothing and it is a tiny saving every flush. Makes no difference to the effectiveness. I might try standing a couple of 250ml bottles in a corner, saving 1 litre per flush in all.

Before I had a meter I had replaced my manky old taps with lever types; this makes it a doddle to turn the water on and off briefly while cleaning my teeth, and must have saved a fortune already in the two years since the meter was installed.

My downstairs neighbour asked for a meter at the same time but it was not possible, as the pipe feeds my supply; she did get a compensatory reduction in her annual bill, but it's still rather higher than mine.

You'll be saving (if in my area) about a tenth of a penny per flush for a half litre saving. If you and your family flushed on average 10 times a day though it would save you £3.30 per year.

I've just figured out my cost per litre. I use 26 cubic metres in a year (no outside usage) @ £1.8098 per cubic metre totalling £47.06 plus £98.38 per year standing charges for a total bill of £145.44 divided out over 26,000 litres means each litre costs me 0.56p/litre.

Ken68

Drawn water also incurs a sewerage charge.
My bill last year was £24. This includes mains water for shower, laundry and cooking and rainwater for everything else.
Not for everyone but worth a go.
The £350 p.a. saving pays for the house insurance, broadband and boiler servicing.

Look_again

I’m afraid CrashUK has fallen for Interflush’s misleading statement – “Reduce water bills by 20-40%”

It might be fair to say “Reduce toilet water usage by 20-40%” but that’s a completely different saving
Baring in mind that we also use water for showers, washing up, watering the garden, washing the car, cooking etc I doubt if water used in the loo accounts for much more than 20% of the total water used
20% of 20% is only 4% so Interflush should be reported to the advertising agency for gross misrepresentation

Sir Alan’s idea would save you wasting £25 from the con company or just do what people have been doing for years, put a brick in the cistern

The_Leveller_3

'Look Agian' should indeed look again. I have just had a look at the interflush site and number one fact in the 'facts' heading was

''Toilet flushing is the single largest user of household water, 30-40%, up to 90% for offices.
(The Interflush™ can save 47% of this).''

47% of 40 is 18.8, not far off the 20% claimed, just 1.2% short, for households

47% of 90 is 42.3, 2.3% MORE than the 40% claimed, for offices.

I suppose the high water use for toilet flushing in offices is because they dont have baths, showers or washing machines etc.

I have had interflush kits fitted for a few years now and they have saved me literally tons of water. I really cannot see the problem with some people, it's not rocket science. Just hold the handle down till the waste has gone, then let go to stop the flow. The waste is variable so make the flush variable. How can anyone have a problem with that.

Look_again

I’m puzzled why The Leveller didn’t comment on my point about Interflush’s misleading statement – “Reduce water bills by 20-40%”
This is boldly printed across the top of their home page which can’t be missed although they do contradict themselves on a tucked away page which CrashUK and many others may not have read

Toilet flushing is the single largest user of household water, 30-40%, up to 90% for offices.
(The Interflush™ can save 47% of this).

The leveller breaks down what 47% of 40% is but doesn’t bother to break down the more realistic figure of 47% of 30%
As 47% of 30% is less than 15% Interflush’s claim of saving 20%+ has been exaggerated by over 1/3rd

“up to 90% for offices” is a pointless claim unless you’re talking about the perhaps 2 offices in the whole country where nobody washes their hands after using the loo, don’t water the plants, wash the floor, drink tea or wash up.
If they don’t drink tea/coffee then they won’t use the loo much so the water saving wouldn’t be worth mentioning

Why would someone try to justify their point by using the figures quoted by a company who are trying to sell a product when there are plenty of independent results available?
Waterwise is one of them
Sorry I can't post a link to the facts but this site doesn't allow newbies t post links

“Toilets use about 30% of the total water used in a household. An old style single flush toilet can use up to 13 litres of water in one flush. New, more water-efficient dual-flush toilets use only six litres for a full flush and four litres with a reduced flush.”

The Leveller makes it sound so simple - “Just hold the handle down till the waste has gone, then let go to stop the flow.”
Sorry I though all the waste had gone but the water splashing about hid some of the waste
Should I flush it again?
Dam! Now no water has been saved. I wish I’d just used a brick then I wouldn’t have to study what I’m leaving behind

“The worst UK drought in 50 years is predicted for 2006.”
When did Interflush make this statement? It must have been at least 5 years ago
Since then we’ve had 2006 and the south east was worst effected according to groundwateruk
It was their worst for 30 years but Interflush prefer not to update their figures as the UK for 50 years sounds more dramatic

“I have had interflush kits fitted for a few years now and they have saved me literally tons of water”
Well as you have lots of it spouting out you’ll need a lot of water to flush it all away
Even if you saved just 5% of your water bill, in your case this would be a substantial saving

By the way, does Interflush give you a good staff discount?

cheeseandpeas

I love Jesus and think that any water saved should be used to baptise people. Woohoo!!

mimi007_2

I have to choose between 2 houses. One is 8 Bedrooms each with ensuite and large garden that will need water for the grass and flowers, lets call it house1.
The other one is 6 bedrooms with 3 ensuite and a garden as well with Apple trees, grass lets call it House2.

If I was to run the house as a b&b which house will be more beneficiale to me. I will only be using between 3 to 5 rooms and the rest will be my private space.

House1 is water metre
House2 isn't.

I am thinking flushing the loo, washing machine every day, costumers having long showers....

I saw on the comment above that someone pays 0.56p per litre? thats a lot. One bath is around 225L so lets say 3 rooms with couples makes it 6 people having a shower everyday
I have a shower everyday aswell as my husband. We both have a bath once a week as a treat.

Please anyone who is good in maths or understand what I am trying to say could you please give some advice.

Cardew

mimi007 wrote: »

I have to choose between 2 houses. One is 8 Bedrooms each with ensuite and large garden that will need water for the grass and flowers, lets call it house1.
The other one is 6 bedrooms with 3 ensuite and a garden as well with Apple trees, grass lets call it House2.

If I was to run the house as a b&b which house will be more beneficiale to me. I will only be using between 3 to 5 rooms and the rest will be my private space.

House1 is water metre
House2 isn't.

I am thinking flushing the loo, washing machine every day, costumers having long showers....

I saw on the comment above that someone pays 0.56p per litre? thats a lot. One bath is around 225L so lets say 3 rooms with couples makes it 6 people having a shower everyday
I have a shower everyday aswell as my husband. We both have a bath once a week as a treat.

Please anyone who is good in maths or understand what I am trying to say could you please give some advice.

The 0.56p per litre figure given above is unrepresentative in that it was for very low consumption and high standing charges. Had the occupant used 1 litre in a year the cost would have been £98 a litre;)


Charges are dependant on where you live in UK but for most people are between 0.2p and 0.3p a litre.


The question you ask is just not answerable without knowing the Rateable Value(RV) of 'house 2'.

It is also pertinent to add that the Water company should insist that a meter is fitted to House 2 on change of occupant, although some companies don't bother enforcing that regulation.

Also the fact that you will be using the house as a commercial premises could affect charges.

Gothicfairy

If you live in the Midlands you will have to have a meter fitted anyway as it becomes a commercial property. Truth is you should have a meter for a B&B no matter where you live and all water companies can force one on you so it all depends on how long you get away with it for.
Also you need to remember to add all charges into your room rate anyway so the bills should all be covered no matter what the rate (ie meter or RV)

You also need to remember the standing charges and the SWD

Cardew

babagaoli wrote: »

I was pretty horrified to realise that I was using around 60L per day in a flat on my own.

Most washing machines use that in a single cycle.

The average is around 150 litres per day per person. A single person tends to use more as no sharing of water for cooking(baths even;))