Shops busiest day.

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Somewhere around 60% of pre-credit crunch volume of sales.

And somewhere around 115% of early 2009 volume of sales. So prices fell when volume of sales decreased, and prices rose when volume of sales increased.

Not quite the picture you're trying to paint though, is it geneer...;)

Wonder why?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:So almost 1/2 of what they were ah Spamish.
Strange. That seems to be exactly the picture I was painting.

Y'know, a strange thing happens if you reject the somewhat
intellectually redundant notion that the "average" price, and particularly transitory short term statistical skews in the same, have any inherent worth and meaning.


For example, one might check out say the ASPC quarterly breakdowns for near peak and compare them to the most recent, and on the understanding that an "average" price is made up of a bunch of different figures mixed together (I know its complex but stick with me here) it becomes apparent that in many areas the picture might not be quite as rosy as a certain someone has regularly tried to paint them....

http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2007Q2.pdf
http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2010Q3.pdf

DervProf

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Why as a matter of fact I do.....

I'm sure you'll be delighted to learn Aberdeen prices are currently slightly higher than they were at the previous peak in July 2007, and slightly lower than they were at the new peak earlier this year.

Of course, they're still around 40K higher than they were at the start of 2007, and still up markedly year on year.

And as the Oil price recently crossed $90 a barrel and seems set to climb still further, it does rather look like being a good year or two ahead for Aberdeen prices.:beer:

Congratulations.

Graham_Devon

Well I been out today.

Bought something in a sale. Cost me more than the same item did around 8 months ago when I bought one before, and apparently I was saving a staggering 40% buying it this time.

Bought another item at normal price, as it's a decent price anyway, isn't a tatt item, so wasn't included in sale.

Cannot understand these people that queue up, or camp outside of stores. Had a look at some clothes in next, lovely, sales items are mostly in size XS though, which is ok for someone built like an anorexic beanstalk, but pretty much useless for everyone else.

Comet had a lovely LED TV in the sale. Half price. I initially thought it must be a bit of a corker and that the price must be half of that on the label price. But no. Half prie was indeed £199. When was the last time a 22" LCD TV with intergrated DVD was £399? 2006? Is that what the half price bit is based on?!

Can get a cheaper one elsewhere for less than the half price one. But one women thought it was the bargain of the century and couldn't quite entertain her excitement over the staggering offer, and off she went to buy one.

DervProf

You nearly did it Graham, you nearly did it !

I sense the purchase will be made soon. The question is, will you beat the VAT deadline ? Will you "save" about £10 on the purchase ?

This is a real cliffhanger.

I reckon if you buy after the VAT increase, it will show that you really care about the country. You will be contributing an extra few quid towards reducing the defecit.

Graham_Devon

DervProf wrote: »

You nearly did it Graham, you nearly did it !

I sense the purchase will be made soon. The question is, will you beat the VAT deadline ? Will you "save" about £10 on the purchase ?

This is a real cliffhanger.

I reckon if you buy after the VAT increase, it will show that you really care about the country. You will be contributing an extra few quid towards reducing the defecit.

It wasn't LED, so I don't think it would have counted!

Though it should have been LED, considering £199 was half the price!

DervProf

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But I think the shoppers have (somewhat surprisingly) come out in force since the weather cleared, and it won't be as bad as previously feared. Perhaps even quite good... And the media coverage mostly reflects that.

As the situation changes, the coverage changes. What you'd expect from the news really, and certainly no indicator of a hidden ramping agenda.

Most of the coverage seems to have been wrong, according to this article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8226977/Retailers-fear-unhappy-New-Year-as-Boxing-Day-sales-disappoint.html

An indication that there may well have been some ramping (as I suspected). Or at least the BBC found one or two people in the retail industry who made bullish comments, and decided to publish those comments.

geneer

geneer wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:So almost 1/2 of what they were ah Spamish.
Strange. That seems to be exactly the picture I was painting.

Y'know, a strange thing happens if you reject the somewhat
intellectually redundant notion that the "average" price, and particularly transitory short term statistical skews in the same, have any inherent worth and meaning.


For example, one might check out say the ASPC quarterly breakdowns for near peak and compare them to the most recent, and on the understanding that an "average" price is made up of a bunch of different figures mixed together (I know its complex but stick with me here) it becomes apparent that in many areas the picture might not be quite as rosy as a certain someone has regularly tried to paint them....

http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2007Q2.pdf
http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2010Q3.pdf

Wot no HAMISH?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

DervProf

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It wasn't LED, so I don't think it would have counted!

Though it should have been LED, considering £199 was half the price!

Mmmm, I`ll have to consider if the purchase of an LCD TV would stop you being a parasite.

The longer you leave it, the more danger of you having to buy a 3D TV to rid yourself of that terrible status.

I myself still own the LCD TV I bought 4 years ago. However, I did buy a new graphics card for my PC a month or so ago, and a new (LCD) monitor a couple of months before that. I still feel a bit bad about spending all that money, but I reckon I saved £6.48 by beating the VAT increase. Mind you, one must offset the loss in interest on what I spent, against waiting until the VAT increase. Erm..........

I reckon I've lost £1.67 in interest, so that makes a saving of £4.81.

:rotfl:

Oh fiddlesticks. I forgot to factor in the slightly higher energy consumption of the new graphics card (I think the new monitor uses about the same as the old one). Right, new gfx card uses about 40 watts more than the old one, although that's only under load..........

:wall:

Bottom line : I'm a nerdy parasite, and proud of it.

Graham_Devon

DervProf wrote: »

Mmmm, I`ll have to consider if the purchase of an LCD TV would stop you being a parasite.

The longer you leave it, the more danger of you having to buy a 3D TV to rid yourself of that terrible status.

I myself still own the LCD TV I bought 4 years ago. However, I did buy a new graphics card for my PC a month or so ago, and a new (LCD) monitor a couple of months before that. I still feel a bit bad about spending all that money, but I reckon I saved £6.48 by beating the VAT increase. Mind you, one must offset the loss in interest on what I spent, against waiting until the VAT increase. Erm..........

I reckon I've lost £1.67 in interest, so that makes a saving of £4.81.

:rotfl:

Oh fiddlesticks. I forgot to factor in the slightly higher energy consumption of the new graphics card (I think the new monitor uses about the same as the old one). Right, new gfx card uses about 40 watts more than the old one, although that's only under load..........

:wall:

Bottom line : I'm a nerdy parasite, and proud of it.

I must admit, I do feel a little bit bad about not taking one out of the store.

I mean, the 32" LCD I have in the lounge, a samsung one, must be a good 4-5 years old now. Theres nothing wrong with it, so I should be getting rid and replacing it really. I suppose however, it's not full HD, not that I have HD, but it should still be full HD, right?

But the monstrosity of the 28" CRT upstairs in the bedroom, that's the one that really worries me. It's got parasite all over it. I mean, it's not even HD ready. Not even ready! I sit there watching freeview on it, and at the back of my mind constantly I'm thinking "not HD ready, not HD ready, can't watch HD even though I don't pay for HD".

I even took my sony DVD player upstairs for the chunky TV, and didn't replace the DVD player with another downstairs, as i have the Xbox. Shoot me now. I do feel bad about using a console for playing DVD's when really I should have gone out and bought another DVD player....probably 2 of them.

Such a parasite. I should really pay for HD and not watch it, just to do my bit.

DervProf

In my quest to find out how retail sales have been doing over the festive period, I have just checked out the BBC News. Not much on the News 24 channel, but I got this little gem from Teletext - £120million of sales in the last couple of days in the West End of London.

Mmmm.

That doesn't really tell us much about the rest of the country, does it ?

Why pick the West End ? Yes, it's probably one of the UK's busiest shopping areas, but that can't really indicate what's happening on a wider scale. A few days ago they were implying that retailers all over the UK were doing well. It now seems they're been very choosey on what they tell us. I wonder why ? My IQ is obviously not high enough to work out the answer, eh Hamish ?