Yet another Brand/boiler question

LeeAH

Afternoon all, Me and my partner are taking the plunge into the modern world of central heating and have had a 3 quotes so far

the 2 that we are leaning to have reccomended the following combi boilers

Glow worm 30 cxi (i belive its the ultracom)

or

Ideal Logic plus

Does anyone have any views on either of theses boilers? or could they say which one is more reliable?

Many thanks for your help and time

gas4you

Personally I hate Glow Worm boilers and their after sales service is terrible.

The logic plus is getting good reports, but as yet i do not feel ready to trust another Ideal boiler at present, but if I had to choose between JUST these 2 I would go for the Ideal with its 5 year warranty.

Now I'll wait to get shot down in flames

LeeAH

Thanks for the help, we may end up going with the glow worm boiler as the quote we got for installation was cheaper by a long shot. Out of the two are they just as reliable as I have heard Ideal are not exactly the best built?
regards
Lee

BlatantFowl

Worcester Bosch is the market leader and the prefered choice of most installers.

Cardew

BlatantFowl wrote: »

Worcester Bosch is the market leader and the prefered choice of most installers.

Not anything against Worcester(I have one) but the 'prefered choice' is subjective.

The problem is that there has been 'Badge Engineering' for years. Firms buy each other out and a boiler marketed by company X can be marketed by company Y next month and most use 'bought-in components - especially the electronics, which seem to be the weak link on condensing boilers.

Nobody can really forecast future reliability as past history is not a guide.

FOREVER21

BlatantFowl wrote: »

Worcester Bosch is the market leader and the prefered choice of most installers.

As has been said its your personal choice I have a Glo Worm 30cx have had it 5 years no bother the engineer who does the service says it has shared parts with Valliant boilers and they are said to be good.
On the other hand my son has a Worcester Bosch and he is pleased with that although on a relacement part he found it expensive.:)

mazza111

I hate Ideal boilers, although the one I have is an older one. Still wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, a different part seems to need replaced on a monthly basis

poolhustler

I am looking to replace an Alpha 240E Boiler that is over10 years old, it has had many leaks recently and I have been advised that parts have been discontinued. I too have looked through many many sites and review forums for advice on the best replacement. I found the brands with the most consistent poor reviews were Ideal, Gloworm and Potterton, but all brands had some dreadful reviews. The common consensus is that the best boiler is largely a personal preference or experience thing, either by the customer or the heating engineer, and the rest is down to quality of installation and a bit of luck (did you get a Friday afternoon bolier).

I am tossing up between Worcester, no other reason than because they are market leader, and a Baxi Platinum/duo tec as that is what my heating engineer recommends and said is the easiest transition fitting wise from my Alpha. I have been quoted about £1850 for installation of the latter (no rads) and I live in Kent. Does this sound fair?

anotherbaldrick

LeeAH wrote: »

Afternoon all, Me and my partner are taking the plunge into the modern world of central heating and have had a 3 quotes so far

the 2 that we are leaning to have reccomended the following combi boilers

Glow worm 30 cxi (i belive its the ultracom)

or

Ideal Logic plus

Does anyone have any views on either of theses boilers? or could they say which one is more reliable?


Many thanks for your help and time

2 years ago our Potterton Pig condensing boiler finaly went to the great landfill in the sky and on the advice of a good local installer we opted for a GLOWWORM Ultracom 24hxi. He advised that this was as good as any on the market and had a stainless steel innards. Dearer than some but as he pointed out the Which test on all popular boilers had come out with this as their Best Buy of all heat only boilers. In our case the swapping out of the pig and fitting the Glowworm was a very simple operation , took less than a day
We are well pleased with it, it is reasonably quiet, cannot be heard with the door shut and being a modulating boiler most of the time is running on tick over. It handles the load much easier than the old Potterton did and is more economical.

Pincher

I have a Glow worm Flexicom 30SX where I live,
and a Potterton Promax FSB in another property,
both 2010 vintage. I find both companies very responsive. In fact, my RGI got Glow worm to send an engineer to consult on the configuration I wanted, for free. The Potterton had a tiny teething problem, and Heat Team was there in two days, had the part in the van, sorted in an hour.

The Promax is very basic, which I like, but there is no weather compensation. No digital controls, just a knob for flow temperature.

The Glow worm, on the other hand, is digital technology galore, where even the wiring centre is like a computer. Weather compensation, interactive LCD display, two wire low voltage controls. Now they have a sexy wireless porgrammable thermostat handset that allows you to set 7 different time periods per day, each with its own temperature! And the wireless outdoor sensor is solar powered! I just have the wired version.

So I would go for Potterton for simple, no fuss, cheap and cheerful,
and Glow worm if I want superduper all singing all dancing.

The Flexicom range has aluminium heat exchangers with larger bores, so it is less susceptible to clogging than the Ultracom, but the Ultracom is slightly more efficient (less than one percent).
The Ultracom 2 has more advanced features that are not available to the Flexicom range, and integrates into a solar and heat pump set up better.

anotherbaldrick

Pincher wrote: »

I have a Glow worm Flexicom 30SX where I live,
and a Potterton Promax FSB in another property,
both 2010 vintage. I find both companies very responsive. In fact, my RGI got Glow worm to send an engineer to consult on the configuration I wanted, for free. The Potterton had a tiny teething problem, and Heat Team was there in two days, had the part in the van, sorted in an hour.

The Promax is very basic, which I like, but there is no weather compensation. No digital controls, just a knob for flow temperature.

The Glow worm, on the other hand, is digital technology galore, where even the wiring centre is like a computer. Weather compensation, interactive LCD display, two wire low voltage controls. Now they have a sexy wireless porgrammable thermostat handset that allows you to set 7 different time periods per day, each with its own temperature! And the wireless outdoor sensor is solar powered! I just have the wired version.

So I would go for Potterton for simple, no fuss, cheap and cheerful,
and Glow worm if I want superduper all singing all dancing.

The Flexicom range has aluminium heat exchangers with larger bores, so it is less susceptible to clogging than the Ultracom, but the Ultracom is slightly more efficient (less than one percent).
The Ultracom 2 has more advanced features that are not available to the Flexicom range, and integrates into a solar and heat pump set up better.

Glow worm do the Ultracom, in a bog standard vanilla temp control only version. This is the one we have.