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Selling used Double Gazing door and windows

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  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    ormus wrote: »
    just tell em they were installed before 2002. no cert required.
    simple init.


    Agreed but difficult if you're building an extension and utilising them.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • Gene_Hunt_2
    Gene_Hunt_2 Posts: 3,902 Forumite
    bryanb wrote: »
    Agreed but difficult if you're building an extension and utilising them.

    Then you'll need a building regs cert and that can cover windows and doors.;)
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    Gene_Hunt wrote: »
    Then you'll need a building regs cert and that can cover windows and doors.;)


    Are there no standards the windows have to comply with?
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • MX5huggy
    MX5huggy Posts: 7,173 Forumite
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    bryanb wrote: »
    Are there no standards the windows have to comply with?
    Of course there is since October new windows have to be WER band C or better or a U Value of 1.6
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    MX5huggy wrote: »
    Of course there is since October new windows have to be WER band C or better or a U Value of 1.6


    At last, someone who agrees with post 12.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • Gene_Hunt_2
    Gene_Hunt_2 Posts: 3,902 Forumite
    bryanb wrote: »
    Are there no standards the windows have to comply with?
    • What are the new Regulations?
      The Government's Approved Document L (Fuel Conservation) complementing the new energy efficiency regulations, was issued on 31 October 2001. It extends Building Regulations to cover replacement window and door installation from April 2002, when all installers and buyers of replacement windows and doors will be expected to comply with improved energy efficiency requirements. One of the main drivers is the need to reduce heat loss in order to conform to more stringent energy efficiency targets. Glass products will be expected to have lower heat loss, measured by their "U" value.
    • They involve more stringent specifications for the products used. In addition, all installations will be subject to inspection by Local Authority Building Control, unless arrangements for self-assessment have been made. With the annual rate of replacement installations running at approximately 2 million, inspection of each installation would cause a major bottleneck if channelled through the normal Building Control route.
    • What has to be self certified?
      Where a window or windows is/are completely replaced (as opposed to repaired) in existing dwellings, they must comply with Approved Documents Parts L1 and N (safety in relation to impact). In addition, the building should not end up with a worse level of compliance with respect to other applicable parts of Building Regulations, which includes Parts A (Structure), B (means of escape in case of fire) F (ventilation), J (combustion appliances and fuel storage systems) and M (access for the disabled).

      Building Regulations for replacement windows state that “The situation must be made no worse than the outgoing windows” for example if the outgoing windows contained trickle vents the new placement windows must include them there are no exceptions, the window openings must be the same or better than the outgoing windows the openings cannot be made any smaller. Side window openings cannot be replaced by top openings over fixed windows.

      Windows and doors in critical locations ie Windows below 800mm from floor level and doors where the glass comes within 1500mm of the floor level to the start of the glass must contain safety glass (toughened or laminated) and must include the relevant safety mark clearly visibly to comply with Building Regulation N.

      Compliance with the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 is also essential.

      FENSA does not apply to conservatories, porches', commercial premises or New Build properties or extensions. In both of these instances you are required to go through the Local Authority Building Control process. If your property is a Flat then planning permission may be required before replacing your windows therefore it is advisable to check this with the planning Department of your Local Authority, if planning permission is required a FENSA registered company can register the installation for certification purposes. If you live in a property that is a Listed Building and wish to replace your windows this would fall under the Jurisdiction of the relevant Local Authority therefore planning permission would be required and the installation cannot be registered with FENSA.

      Doors with less than 50% glazing do not require registration.

      FENSA also does not apply to caravans/holiday chalets if they are not occupied for more than 10 months of the year these fall within the jurisdiction of the Local Authority and therefore a Building Notice is required. If however they are permanently lived in they can be FENSA Registered however they must have a there own postal address which has been registered with the Royal Mail
  • oz0707
    oz0707 Posts: 937 Forumite
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    I occasionally put old door and frames on gumtree. Advertise for silly money, then people wont care if its the wrong size, its cheap! A score is better than nowt!
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    Just read Gene's post more closely, it appears FENSA does not apply to extensions = I'm out of here!
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
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