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CRB and occassional helper forms

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  • I would really hate to be as cynical as some posters on this forum.
    My friend did pay for his groceries, he wouldn't dream of not doing so. He has never been to court before in his life, he was worried, scared, stressed and that made him ill, he just wanted it over and done with and didn't think of any other consequences. He doesn't have close family to turn to and I advised as best I could as a friend as did the solicitor but he just wanted it finished.
    I'm not belittling conditions like dementia but it's not up to me to post his life in detail here, I just wanted some advice regarding the 'occasional helper form' and if it was the same as a CRB.
  • How can he be sure he did pay if he is confused?
  • Savvy_Sue
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    He will not be able to do anything with young people for a very long time.
    wrong: it depends on the people looking at his form.
    Will a shoplifting charge really stop him working with the drama group?
    He plays occasionally for productions. He does not, presumably, work alone with any children or young people.

    frankly, I'd question whether they actually needed to do a crb check on him but I'm to tired to read up on their site.

    he needs to say on the form that he has a conviction, in his place I would ask who gets to see the forms (and it should only be one person, not the entire committee) and talk to them in confidence. if it were me I'd be happy for him to continue.
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  • Savvy_Sue wrote: »
    wrong: it depends on the people looking at his form.

    He plays occasionally for productions. He does not, presumably, work alone with any children or young people.

    frankly, I'd question whether they actually needed to do a crb check on him but I'm to tired to read up on their site.

    he needs to say on the form that he has a conviction, in his place I would ask who gets to see the forms (and it should only be one person, not the entire committee) and talk to them in confidence. if it were me I'd be happy for him to continue.

    Yes he'd need to do a CRB when working with students, there could also be vulnerable adults (sever learning difficulty, disabilities) in the group as well. There is something of the paranoia about it but also some sense - as there would be an opportunity to strike up friendships with the students, invite them to meet outside the venue, get them to his home ...

    What I can't believe no one has picked up is why he wasn't done for littering, if innocent of shoplifting then he was guilty of littering :p

    As others have said it's up to the group and their policy with convictions.
    Santander are awful - mission in life is to warn people since 17-Sep-10, 18-Sep-10 realised one of thousands.
  • Savvy_Sue
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    Yes he'd need to do a CRB when working with students, there could also be vulnerable adults (sever learning difficulty, disabilities) in the group as well. There is something of the paranoia about it but also some sense - as there would be an opportunity to strike up friendships with the students, invite them to meet outside the venue, get them to his home ...
    true, as I should have realised from the old Midsomer Murder I was watching the other day ...
    What I can't believe no one has picked up is why he wasn't done for littering, if innocent of shoplifting then he was guilty of littering :p
    :rotfl: shades of Alice's Restaurant ...
    As others have said it's up to the group and their policy with convictions.
    let's hope they're sane ...
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  • Never heard of Alice's Restaurant before, getting a cup of tea to watch on youtube now.
    Santander are awful - mission in life is to warn people since 17-Sep-10, 18-Sep-10 realised one of thousands.
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    oh enjoy!!!
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  • pupsicola
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    Why didn't he just go back into the store and back to the till where he had paid for the goods. They would have recognised him and sorted it all out in no time. Unfortunately it will be revealed when he does the CRB. If you are innocent why on earth would you admit to something you didn't do?
  • pupsicola wrote: »
    Why didn't he just go back into the store and back to the till where he had paid for the goods. They would have recognised him and sorted it all out in no time. Unfortunately it will be revealed when he does the CRB. If you are innocent why on earth would you admit to something you didn't do?


    Couldnt agree with you more !

    This is exactly what i said in post three of this thread. Seems to me s though there could be more to this story than meets the eye.

    Surely once the old boy was taken in by the police and questioned , the police had the common sense to go back to the store to investigate ? If they didnt then that says a lot .
    The loopy one has gone :j
  • was there any CCTV is the store?
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