Selling Car - Scam buyers?

Froggitt

Got car on Autotrader. Had a few emails enquiring, obviously scams, but I dont get how they will scam me. Any ideas?

From: pauljack@globomail.com
To: me

Dear seller,
I'm Paul! a marine agent from Ukraine, wish you happy Xmas in
advance! fortunately this morning i came across your pasted auto
online through "evo.co.uk" and im having a vast interest, i hope is
still available for sale? if so get back to me with full detail of it,
hopping to read from you soonest......

Best Regards

> From: j.hilton120@gmail.com
To: me
Thanks for the prompt response i will to buy the car for my Son as a birthday gift and I am currently at an industry exhibition as a engineer I really want the goods to be a surprise for my Son so i wont let him know anything about the goods until it gets delivered to him, i am sure he will be more than happy with the Product.i will
need you to give me your PayPal email address and the price so i can make the payments asap for the goods and pls if you don't have PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to https://www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so as to put the money through.

BillTrac

Look they don't even say what it is you are selling. They call it 'the goods'.

They will offer to pay over the asking price and say the difference is so you can pay their shipping agent. They send you a cheque and ask you to send a payment, usually by Western Union, to their shipping agent. You bank their cheque, send the payment to the shipping agent and let the car go. They then cancel the cheque and you have lost the car and the monies to the agent.

Ignore them and deal with real buyers

albionrovers

They'll try and use payment methods like Western Union which can be a disaster

shaun_from_Africa

As the 2nd e-mail mentions paypal, I can tell you exactly what the scam would be there.

You will set up a Paypal account as suggested (If you don't already have one), and send the e-mail address to the buyer so that he can pay you.
Shortly after this you would receive an e-mail from the "Paypal trust and security dept" telling you that the buyer has paid in full for the car and that once you can supply them with a shipping number to confirm that the goods are on their way then they will release the funds to your account.

The "Paypal" e-mail will look totally genuine with lots of links to paypal pages, but will of course be totally ficticious and have been sent by the scammer.
This sort of thing is fairly common on ebay, especially with high value high risk goods being sold by newbie sellers.

They'll try and use payment methods like Western Union which can be a disaster

Accepting payment by Western Union is about the safest way that there is to receive money providing that it is a cash pickup from a WU agent.
I sell a lot on ebay and I wish that all buyers would pay me this way.
No fees (for me), no risk of payment bouncing or being reversed, and I get cash in hand before I post the goods.

paddyrg

If you have a look over at scamwarners.com you will see these scams are typically overpayment scams - you are sent a fake cheque or fake paypal email for more than the items value - and you are to pay the balance to the "shipping agent" or some other party via untraceable Western Union or Moneygram wire, which can be picked up anywhere in the world. Needless to say when the cheque bounces a week or month later (depending on the quality of the fake) you have lost that balance, plus overdraft fees and probably lost the original car too if its not still standing on your drive.

Never part with your goods until the verifiable cash is in your hands (not bank as in a cheque, but hands as in banknotes), then you can be pretty sure you're not being stiffed (assuming you check for fake notes!!) Or use a *real* escrow service like escrow.com (not one that the scammer nominates, one you nominate!)

Freddie_Snowbits

There is nought wrong here pal, they are genuine buyers. But I would make sure the car does not leave the drive until the readies are in my hand

Froggitt

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

There is nought wrong here pal, they are genuine buyers.

Are you sure? :undecided:undecided:undecided

bosseyed

Hallo the seller!!1
Please for to be greetings I am look for the goods like yours and am showing vast love for the product that you are for to be the selling!! I am luckily to have been in Iraq which is where I am find $4,000,000 in oil drum so i am in need of goods like yours to transport my luckiness monies back to my lovely home country!!11! As you are to be seeing i am very a wealthy gentlemens and am definite good for to give you the money, I would ask that you please for to send goods to my friend in Nigeria Dr Nigel Ombompu on this address

Mr Nigel ombompu
Nigeria

he request goods to be sent AsAp and for to be good to you my friend i will give you $100k for your troubles all you need it for to send me bank details along with goods and I will transfers money quick smart like beaver and we shall be partying as if it was 1999.
Thanking you please!1!

Froggitt

Yup I get those as well........this one is from the FBI

From: fbi@gov.org
Subject: YOUR WINNING NOTIFICATION
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:27:30 +0100

Anti-Terrorist And Monetory Crimes Division
FBI Headquarters In Washington, D.C.
Federal Bureau Of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue,
NW Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
Website: https://www.fbi.gov

Attn: Beneficiary,

This is to Officially inform you that it has come to our notice and we have thoroughly completed an Investigation with the help of our Intelligence Monitoring Network System that you legally won the sum of $800,000.00 USD from a Lottery Company outside the United States of America. During our investigation we discovered that your e-mail won the money from an Online Balloting System and we have authorized this winning to be paid to you via a Certified Cashier's Check.

Normally, it will take up to 10 business days for an International Check to be cashed by your local bank. We have successfully notified this company on your behalf that funds are to be drawn from a registered bank within the United States Of America so as to enable you cash the check instantly without any delay, henceforth the stated amount of $800,000.00 USD has been deposited with Bank Of America.

We have completed this investigation and you are hereby approved to receive the winning prize as we have verified the entire transaction to be Safe and 100% risk free, due to the fact that the funds have been deposited at Bank Of America you will be required to settle the following bills directly to the Lottery Agent in-charge of this transaction whom is located in United Kingdom. According to our discoveries, you were required to pay for the following -

(1) Deposit Fee's ( Fee's paid by the company for the deposit into an American Bank which is - Bank Of America )
(2) Cashier's Check Conversion Fee ( Fee for converting the Wire Transfer payment into a Certified Cashier's Check )
(3) Shipping Fee's ( This is the charge for shipping the Cashier's Check to your home address )

The total amount for everything is $200.00 (Two Hundred-US Dollars). We have tried our possible best to indicate that this $200.00 should be deducted from your winning prize but we found out that the funds have already been deposited at Bank Of America and cannot be accessed by anyone apart from you the winner, therefore you will be required to pay the required fee's to the Agent in-charge of this transaction via Western Union Money Transfer Or Money Gram.

In order to proceed with this transaction, you will be required to contact the agent in-charge ( Mr. Bruce Hutchinson ) via e-mail. Kindly look below to find appropriate contact information:

CONTACT AGENT NAME: Mr. Bruce Hutchinson
E-MAIL ADDRESS: fbi.rep@gala.net
Telephone Number : +234-802-959-2149 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +234-802-959-2149 end_of_the_skype_highlighting, 0092348029592149.

You will be required to e-mail him with the following information:

FULL NAME:
ADDRESS:
CITY:
STATE:
ZIP CODE:
DIRECT CONTACT NUMBER:

You will also be required to request Western Union or Money Gram details on how to send the required $200.00 in order to immediately ship your prize of $800,000.00 USD via Certified Cashier's Check drawn from Bank Of America, also include the following transaction code in order for him to immediately identify this transaction : EA2948-910.

This letter will serve as proof that the Federal Bureau Of Investigation is authorizing you to pay the required $200.00 ONLY to Mr. Bruce Hutchinson via information in which he shall send to you, if you do not receive your winning prize of $800,000.00 we shall be held responsible for the loss and this shall invite a penalty of $200.00 which will be made PAYABLE ONLY to you (The Winner).

Robert Mueller
Washington DC FBI.
Room, 7367
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

NOTE: In order to ensure your check gets delivered to you ASAP, you are advised to immediately contact Mr. Bruce Hutchinson via contact information provided above and make the required payment of $200.00 to information in which he shall provide to you

Froggitt

And another........

PMB 16, Meridian House, Ring Rd. Central, Accra, Ghana
Telephone: 00233-246102358 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00233-246102358 end_of_the_skype_highlighting, 00233-543794382 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00233-543794382 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
Email: icbpaycentre@live.com, icbpaycentree@gmail.com
Our…..Ref.No icbgh/db/af/10/10
Unpaid Beneficiary,

It is obvious that you have not received your fund which is to the tune of $10.8million due to past corrupt
Governmental Officials who almost held the fund to themselves for their selfish reason and some individuals
who have taken advantage of your fund all in an attempt to swindle your fund which has led to so many
losses from your end and unnecessary delay in the receipt of your fund. The National Central Bureau of
Interpol enhanced by the United Nations have successfully passed a mandate to the current International
Commercial Bank Ghana to boost the exercise of clearing all foreign debts owed to you and other
individuals and organizations who have been found not to have receive their Contract Sum, Lottery/
Gambling, Inheritance and the likes.

Now your payment will be send to you by ATM card that will be coming alongside a custom pin which you
will use to withdraw up to $5,000 per day from any ATM machine that has the Master Card Logo on it. Also
with the ATM card you will be able to transfer your funds to your bank account. The ATM card comes with
a handbook or manual to enlighten you about how to use it. Your payment would be sent to you via UPS
or FedEx. Because we have signed a contract with them which should expired very soon.

Below are few list of tracking numbers you can track from UPS and FedEx website to confirm people like
you who have received their payment successfully.

Name: J2261466148 John krasnow (https://www.ups.com)
Name: J2261466111 Roberts LaTanya (https://www.ups.com)
Name: Christine Fuller:
UPS Tracking Number: J2261466139 (https://www.ups.com)
Name: Mary Brodhead: UPS Tracking Number: J2261466095
(https://www.ups.com)
To effect the release of your fund valued at $10.8million you are advised to contact the director of
payment and delivery officer

Name: David Felix
Email: icbpaycentre@live.com
Telephone: 00233-543794382 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00233-543794382 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
On contacting him do provide him with the following information's:
1) Your full Name:
2) Your Address:
3) Home/Cell Phone:

Yours sincerely,

Rose Ezego
ECOWAS Payment Reprensative Officer.
CC: National Central Bureau of Interpol

Froggitt

And another car scammer........

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To bambura@o2.pl


From:Johnson nicolas (johnsonnicolas141@hotmail.com) [URL="javascript:;"][/URL]Sent:Fri 12/10/10 10:04 AMTo: bambura@o2.pl









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My name is Johnson Nicolas.Am here to tell you that I saw
your advertised listed on internet and am interested in buying
your toyota, Please let me know if it is still available for sale
and perhaps in good condition.
I am waiting your response to my mail
and I will also proceed with purchase if it is still for sale
and also in good condition as I have requested earlier on
Thanks so much and I will be waiting for your response asap
God bless.

My regards.
Johnson