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  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    paul1964 wrote: »
    What surprises me is that these anarchist types get uppity when a mulitinational finance company declines their business.

    A bit like a BNP member moaning about being refused entry to a Diwali festival.

    Hardly 'surprising' is it?

    Called the right to know...
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  • paul1964_2
    paul1964_2 Posts: 280 Forumite
    vaporate wrote: »
    Hardly 'surprising' is it?

    Do you not find it somewhat contradictory (some would say ironic) that anarchists are so dependant on the services of multinational companies such as Visa and Mastercard?
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    paul1964 wrote: »
    What surprises me is that these anarchist types get uppity when a mulitinational finance company declines their business.

    A bit like a BNP member moaning about being refused entry to a Diwali festival.

    Wikileaks isn't an anarchist organisation.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    tomterm8 wrote: »
    Wikileaks isn't an anarchist organisation.

    Correct as they are supported by some journalistic organisations like the AP in the US.

    The hackers stopping mastercard, visa, paypal etc from working are anarchists but they aren't even an organisation.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • Snooze
    Snooze Posts: 2,041 Forumite
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    nearlynew wrote: »
    Terrorists?

    The biggest threat we face is the liars and thieves running governments, banks and global corporationns.

    They're the real terrorists and a far bigger threat to our lives and freedoms.

    Yep. :T End of discussion.

    PS. I fully support wikileaks and the attacks.
  • 1984ReturnsForReal_2
    1984ReturnsForReal_2 Posts: 15,431 Forumite
    Snooze wrote: »
    Yep. :T End of discussion.

    PS. I fully support wikileaks and the attacks.



    Charles' car did look quite artistic
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  • Arg
    Arg Posts: 931 Forumite
    paul1964 wrote: »
    What surprises me is that these anarchist types get uppity when a mulitinational finance company declines their business.

    A bit like a BNP member moaning about being refused entry to a Diwali festival.

    Everyone should get uppity when a business like that abuses its position in an attempt to control.
  • paul1964_2
    paul1964_2 Posts: 280 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    Wikileaks isn't an anarchist organisation.

    You can believe they do not have an anarchist agenda if you wish. I am not convinced.

    The anarchists making the attacks do appear to see them as brethren.
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    edited 10 December 2010 at 6:04PM
    paul1964 wrote: »
    You can believe they do not have an anarchist agenda if you wish. I am not convinced.

    The anarchists making the attacks do appear to see them as brethren.

    It really doesn't matter what you believe or don't believe: Anarchism is a particular philosophy, and Wikileaks quite explicitly doesn't hold to that philosophy. you might as well call Wikileaks chartists or rastafarians.

    Civil disobedience or criminal aims or methods don't as such make a group an Anarchist group, they have to hold to the philosophies of Anarchism.

    You can believe that Wikileaks is a criminal organisation, or that what it is doing is illegal or immoral, and there is a case to answer for all these beliefs (I am not saying I agree with them or disagree with them).

    But there really is no case to say they are Anarchists.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    Wikileaks is a noble entity.

    The government are the ones covering up criminal activity.
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