Dla to be replaced by pip

seven-day-weekend

I too think Benefits and Work scaremonger. I couldn't even read the link posted in the OP as I needed to pay for the privilege of doing so. I too think, that they frighten people into paying to find the 'answers' to non-existent or minimal problems.

As regards the new criteria, I don't know enough about it to comment but if for example someone can have a relatively normal life through using an aid, well should they really be entitled to further money?

My dad was registered disabled since he was a young man, he received no Benefits for this (I don't think they existed). His disability meant he could not walk far without pain, but he could cycle for miles and did so up until the day he died aged 89. He worked all his life until he was 65 in a factory.

Now with his bike he could get around everywhere he could get if he was able to walk properly. His bike could be classed as a mobility aid, and it gave him that mobility.

snoopy89

i for one don’t like stupid lines like { you are so far left of field as to being out of order } and as for {i for one welcome mass reassessment, I know 100% I will pass}, you don’t know that for sure at all and you would be silly to think you would as artos are lying to much. Just read sites all over the net. why are so meny awards given back after appell. becuse artos are messing up.



yes i to use the dla for what it should be used for, but the point i am making is like it or not the government whant’s to cut out the glass backs etc., no problem, but the dwp say itself that no more than 0.6% fraud are from glass backs. so that by its self-shows the government is targeting for the wrong reason. Read the news, watch the news, watch the parliamentary channel and you can see how narrow minded views the new parties have, it gets me how some people can be manipulated by newspaper headlines like the glass backs get 5000000 pounds a year and i have to work for my money. yes your right there is always someone on more money than a working person but it’s a very very tiny amount of people ripping the system off, not hundreds of thousands like the papers make you believe.



this goverment is makeing people watch each other like spys to see if mr smith can walk to his mobility car, if he can then report him. its stupid views like that that are causeing problems. anyway i will shut up now as i am going on like a moaning old git, i prefer to help people rather than call and treat them is a off handed way. and no i am not reffering to you.

seven-day-weekend

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

It is not possible to claim DLA and AA at the same time.

DLA is paid to claimants under 65yrs, and AA is paid to claimants over 65yrs.

However, if someone gets DLA before 65 I believe they are allowed to keep it after they are 65. It is also possible to claim both, as they could be getting DLA mobility before 65 (which they can then keep after 65), and AA after 65 (there is no mobility element in AA).

mandyboops1973

It just makes everything very frustrating and worrying, i can walk, i DO walk but i cant walk without pain. the pain i get is simular to lactic acidin your mucsles after a work out, i wont let it stop me from walking when i walk you may not evern notice i have a problem. but the fact of the matter is im in pain when i walk. this becomes very frustrating when you walk into a medicle and they ask how far you can walk, and reply with i just seen you walk into the room just now without crying out in agony and collapsing on the floor screaming like a strangled cat.

I feel like a criminal when i go for a medicle becuse my disabilty is not so visably noticleable. i walk in and smile, they assume i must be fine and try their best to twist everything i say when they write their report.

The last report from my esa medicle made me feel sick i could not belive what i was reading. the benifit system has made my life utter hell and depressiong at times,people have said to me if you truley have a disabilty you dont need to worry, this is false, i have seen how they operate this is not the case,They prey on the vunrable at medicles and unless you stand up for your self and dont let them put words in your mouth or pull the words they want to hear out of their mouth they will do their best to fail you, and as for dla, its 25% based on your disability 75% how you will in the forms :mad:

vision2009

"i think they like to scaremonger to get people worrried so they pay the money to get the solution to the problem that is not there...."
Errr time to wake up.
The vile government are only interested in themselves. They have become masters at "moving the goalposts" They are disgusting parasites who take pleasure in inflicting suffering on the population.

krisskross

vision2009 wrote: »

Errr time to wake up.
The vile government are only interested in themselves. They have become masters at "moving the goalposts" They are disgusting parasites who take pleasure in inflicting suffering on the population.

Do you not read the papers or watch TV? You must know just how much debt the country is in plus how many false claimants of disabilty and sickness benefits there are.

Time to realise that DLA and ESA are not going to be the easy option that they used to be.

Proper medicals and medical evidence, not just a claimant's word for it and an under pressure GP writing out sick certificates.

I doubt there is a single one of us that doesn't know someone with a greatly exaggerated claim to secure the not inconsiderable disability benefits available. Certainly it pays so much better than JSA and no hassle from one year to the next.

seven-day-weekend

I agree krisskross, if someone has a genuine disability they should not mind if it is checked upon occasionally. Some conditions DO improve, others can be helped to improve by better medication/surgery/aids that did not exist at one time. If this is the case then the person does not need the help they did previously.

hrafndot

I found B&W to be very helpful when I first claimed ESA and I paid the fee £18pa as it was worth it. It helped me understand a very complex system. I find some of their newsletters a bit dramatic (but that's marketing isn't it, even Martin does it) but they do tell the truth. Now I understand enough to deal with things on my own.

If you don't understand the rules, you need help. Scaremonger is a word often used by people who don't want you examining a process too closely.

It has always been the way with the British judicial system that if you have a good brief, he/she may be able to get you through a situation.

Simply being open and honest is not enough. You have to be alert to duplicity and challenge these "medicals".

DWP have a duty of care and their processes should protect the innocent by being robust and the decision makers reliable and the appeal system should be protected at all costs.

I went through two years of worry and could feel my condition getting worse and worse. Now I understand what is going to happen, I can sort out the required evidence, fill in the required forms (although some genuinely ill people will need help with this).

I am going to have to go through another few years with DLA, but unless the goal posts are moved again (which B&W will alert me to) I will eventually prove my case, hopefully without endless nights of worry.

If, however, you have a mental health issue or a difficult to diagnose illness, then advocacy is definitely needed. Remember how long it took the medical establishment to acknowledge ME.

I am sure that these DWP Press releases will stop once they have got the fraud figures down, but pro rata, they are relatively low according to their website.

zzzLazyDaisy

krisskross wrote: »

I doubt there is a single one of us that doesn't know someone with a greatly exaggerated claim to secure the not inconsiderable disability benefits available. Certainly it pays so much better than JSA and no hassle from one year to the next.

You have obviously not had much contact with mothers who are faced with DLA renewal forms every 18 months for their disabled child. I have just finished helping a mum with a child who cannot be left unattended at any time, day or night. She completed the form with tears streaming down her face, over a period of weeks because she also has two toddlers and finding time to look after them all and see to the DLA form was a nightmare (she does have a husband, but he is recovering from a stroke so can't help much). This is the second time in 18 months we have gone through this exercise - supported both times by the child's consultants. DLA was awarded on renewal, but again only for 18 months.

I am sure that there are lots of other people, adults and children, who are required to complete regular renewal forms. I don't, for one minute disagree with the need to carry out regular assessments, but I do object to the implication that DLA is an easy, hassle free, benefit.

pipkin71

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I too think Benefits and Work scaremonger.

Another one here who believes Benefits and Work are scaremongering.

I claim higher rate mobility and care DLA, but have not 'worried' about the reports coming from B&W.