Danny Alexander on QT

StevieJ

Sapphire wrote: »

I don't believe either he or Vince Cable are being particularly hypocritical. They've both openly said they strongly believe the coalition is right to raise the student fees in the way they have outlined because the country cannot afford to pay them with the number of people aspiring to go to 'uni' (unlike in the past when far fewer people went to university, so that the fees were much more affordable for the taxpayer). However, the impression I get is that they may not be allowed to vote for the rise due to their own party regulations. The agreement with the Conservatives always was that they could abstain from certain policies.

Having said that, I think it would be a grave error for the Lib Dems to decide to abstain or vote against the policy – a sign of weakness, particularly because they have been involved in setting it.

BBC may have been anti-brown, but they were not anti-labour. They are definitely anti the coalition, and try to sensationalize, exaggerate and dramatize the slightest bit of trivia in order to rubbish it (almost as bad as the guardian).

I think hypocrite is too nice a word for what the LibDems have done, BTW are you saying that the coalition shouldn't be held to account?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

StevieJ wrote: »

I think hypocrite is too nice a word for what the LibDems have done

I think you are right.

What they have done far exceeds Labours lies of a referendum.


I was just thinking of what the deciding factor was for the Lib Dems to align themselves with the Cons.


Me thinks Queenie rang up Clegg & ordered him to form the colatition with the bloke that doesn't know much because she couldn't hack another Wednesday morning with Mr No Charisma & People Skills. (Source - WikiLeaks )

markharding557

I don't think the bbc is biased against any one,in my view they ctiticise all sides equally which is something you don't see in partisan tabloids irrespective of whichever political leaning they have.
example of a negative story on labourhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753998

1984ReturnsForReal_2

markharding557 wrote: »

example of a negative story on labourhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753998

Is that a negative Labour story or a pro Johnson story?

JonnyBravo

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I think you are right.

What they have done far exceeds Labours lies of a referendum.

Or say, the Labour lies about not introducing tuition fees and then introducing them.
Yep, it's clear to see the LibDems are far far worse.

leveller2911

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I think you are right.

What they have done far exceeds Labours lies of a referendum.



Don't agree, they are all Hypocrites , you can't have degrees of Hypocracy you either are one or not.

I found the audience student numbers strangely high too,but what made me chuckle was all the students were saying how the Coalition should listen to what the British public wants.
As far as I can see they are listening to Jo Public,IMO the vast majority of the public are in favour of student fees rising.Education is free for all, further education is a choice , in an ideal world we would have enough funding for all of the needs of society but we are far from an ideal world.
The fact that Welsh and Scottish students are sunsidised re enforces my opinion that we give them far too much money.Even more perverse is that EU students going to Welsh Unies are also subsidised but and English student has to pay....Something very wrong there and it will bite the Condems in the !!! sooner or later..

1984ReturnsForReal_2

JonnyBravo wrote: »

Yep, it's clear to see the LibDems are far far worse.

It would appear so JonnyB.

Obviously I must of slept through those student riots in the 1990s & 2000s.

Did they cause much damage?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

leveller2911 wrote: »

IMO the vast majority of the public are in favour of student fees rising.

I would be interested to know how & who you come to that opinion with & whether or not they/you had a free education.

StevieJ

JonnyBravo wrote: »

Or say, the Labour lies about not introducing tuition fees and then introducing them.
Yep, it's clear to see the LibDems are far far worse.

You don't normally miss the the sarcasm

StevieJ

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I would be interested to know how & who you come to that opinion with & whether or not they/you had a free education.

I agree, I think a number of the older general public are embarrassed about what the younger members of society are having to go through now.