Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

John_Pierpoint

If it is designed wrong and the pond freezes up, you will be able to rent it out as a skating rink.

There is a firm called "Ice Energy" because in Scandinavia there is a building heated with heat collection coils in a "glacier".
That is a gimmick and Ice Energy has a reputation for sales rather than engineering skills IFSWIM.

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

Assuming you're a higher rate tax payer (you'd have to be to afford that rent), £32,000 of your basic pay is going just on rent. If I add in the cost of NI, then nigh on £38,000 of your basic salary is earnt JUST to pay rent.

It just goes to prove, not all lunatics are poor.



£38k .... I'm blown away.... that's HUGE!!!

well, it doesn't quite work like that because you don't pay 40% on everything you own.

the effective tax rate on my salary is almost exactly 33.33%, so i am really earning £28,800 to pay total annual rent of £19,200.

when i say i, i am only paying half the rent so really the cost to me is only £800pcm (on the basis that i cannot avoid the tax on my PAYE salary), and this isn't a particularly harrowing % of my net pay. the mrs pays the other half.

£800pcm isn't that expensive for london these days. if i was living in a shared house i would be paying probably £700pcm (in any area that i am personally prepared to live in, at least).

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

Its a big pond really.

You seem to know a lot about this, I'm impressed. To me its a mystery. However many times they explain it.

I don't have practical experience, but my gut says definitely to put the collector in the pond if it's pretty big and more than 2 feet deep. The reason is that the bottom of the pond never gets below 4C, even when there's a layer of ice on the surface. In the deep mid-winter, that's probably the warmest place around, so it's a great place to grab heat from. Also, the water circulates, so I expect you wouldn't need such a big collector as if it's buried in a field.

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

LOL. My last studio was 24 square metres. So it's 2.5x the size of that.

It's not about space really, it's about the ability to change the space. If you're renting and storage is !!!!!!, you have to lump it. If you own and storage is !!!!!!, you can work out where to put in a bl00dy big ceiling to floor wall to wall storage cupboard, or move things about a bit.

well, when there is another person living there it does become a bit more about space. i could not live in a studio (even a 100 sq m studio) with another person because they would always be in the same room as me and i wouldn't be able to tolerate it. when you start dividing the space up into rooms, each room has to be of a minimum size otherwise it's pointless- so when there are 2 of you i think you do need a minimum footprint, although everyone will have different tolerance levels.

i reckon i'd be fine to live in a 25 sq m studio if i was single though.

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

I don't have practical experience, but my gut says definitely to put the collector in the pond if it's pretty big and more than 2 feet deep. The reason is that the bottom of the pond never gets below 4C, even when there's a layer of ice on the surface. In the deep mid-winter, that's probably the warmest place around, so it's a great place to grab heat from. Also, the water circulates, so I expect you wouldn't need such a big collector as if it's buried in a field.

Not a hundred percent sure but I think its about 10-16 feet deep (I think I touched the bottom with a branch once). I don't actually know exactly how ''big'' it is.



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JonnyBravo

lostinrates wrote: »

Not a hundred percent sure but I think its about 10-16 feet deep (I think I touched the bottom with a branch once). I don't actually know exactly how ''big'' it is.

The technical term for a pond that big is "fec-kin mahooosive"

lostinrates

JonnyBravo wrote: »

The technical term for a pond that big is "fec-kin mahooosive"

I think it looks bigger in the picture TBH. eg. Its definitely a pond rather than a little lake!

silvercar

lostinrates wrote: »

Not a hundred percent sure but I think its about 10-16 feet deep (I think I touched the bottom with a branch once). I don't actually know exactly how ''big'' it is.



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If that were mine it would have some decking and gnomes with fishing rods trailing into the water and a fountain in the middle (solar powered) and a little rowing boat.....

lostinrates

silvercar wrote: »

If that were mine it would have some decking and gnomes with fishing rods trailing into the water and a fountain in the middle (solar powered) and a little rowing boat.....

was talking about the bat on greenfingered yesterday. we had a dinghy but the rats ate it recently. DH wants a little wood/plastic one. It can't go far, as I said, it possibly looks bigger than it is in the pic. we call the pond ''Lake cake''. The boat is going to be ''The Icing''. There are loads of cheap dinghies on ebay but we can't get one home.

DH wants a flock of plastic flamingos there. v. long term we'll sort out the inpentrable brambes, turn it into a naturalistic garden and have a bbq. ATM it doesn't look so hot tbh.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Not a hundred percent sure but I think its about 10-16 feet deep (I think I touched the bottom with a branch once). I don't actually know exactly how ''big'' it is.



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That's a biggun missus.

Are you eventually going to turn it into one of those "trendy" wild swimming ponds?