Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

lemonjelly

Hoping silvercar is about - any chance you can update me on the weather in manchester? I'm due to drive up there tomorrow afternoon for a concert!

lemonjelly

treliac wrote: »

Hi viva. Yes but, more importantly, having to give a fair bit of support to parents, on both sides, who are failing in health. Am finding things worrying and draining at the moment.

I'm having to research, prompt and push various health services in a way I shouldn't have to be doing. It's hard work, upsetting and making me very angry. Heaven help the neglected who don't have anyone to act on their behalf.

Hey treliac! Best wishes - we do miss you.

I relate to what you're going through. Make sure you look after yourself through all this.

Remember to use the support of family, friends, & people like us!:)

vivatifosi wrote: »

I'm feeling like that on a daily basis at the moment. Every day we've got homeless people coming in and falling asleep at the desks. They just can't keep warm enough out of doors. What happened last year, when my favourite homeless man died, is still etched large on my memory.

God help humanity if we have as rough a year next year too when many of the libraries in this country (not mine thank goodness) will be shut.

Not just the homeless though it does worry me. I'm seeing a lot of people who don't fit exactly into boxes and they are already falling between the different services and flailing around not getting support. Those with poor english, low IQ, physical and mental health problems etc....

Ever since graduation I've been working with people like this. It is all right for politicians to announce how this or that service is there for people, access for the most vulnerable is always an issue.

I remember when I started - I was volunteering. I have clear recollections of journeys home where it would hit me that it seemed there was no-one out there to support some of the people I was seeing. It gave a value to the work I did that I have never got from paid employment.

God bless the volunteers of the world. We'd all be worse off without them.

lemonjelly

Viva! I finally finished the book! Yay!

I'm going to take my time picking my next tome.

I also got a book I've been searching for, for a while in our work secret santa! Joy!

silvercar

lemonjelly wrote: »

Hoping silvercar is about - any chance you can update me on the weather in manchester? I'm due to drive up there tomorrow afternoon for a concert!

I'm around, but haven't spoken to anyone up there in the last day. Will let you know later today.

PasturesNew

Best wishes to you Inspector Monkfish and I hope your family Xmas is lovely and as perfect as it can be.

lemonjelly

silvercar wrote: »

I'm around, but haven't spoken to anyone up there in the last day. Will let you know later today.

Thanks silvercar - I do very much appreciate it!:)

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

Ever since graduation I've been working with people like this. It is all right for politicians to announce how this or that service is there for people, access for the most vulnerable is always an issue.

yes but.....i think that's partlt why this

I remember when I started - I was volunteering. I have clear recollections of journeys home where it would hit me that it seemed there was no-one out there to support some of the people I was seeing. It gave a value to the work I did that I have never got from paid employment.

God bless the volunteers of the world. We'd all be worse off without them.

is so important.procedures have to be followed by organisations but people can be more flexible. In this way I think the Big society, though crassly named and presented, is the right move...giving us the responsibility and power to fill gaps and cracks that no state involvement truly could.

lemonjelly

lostinrates wrote: »

yes but.....i think that's partlt why this



is so important.procedures have to be followed by organisations but people can be more flexible. In this way I think the Big society, though crassly named and presented, is the right move...giving us the responsibility and power to fill gaps and cracks that no state involvement truly could.

The whole big society makes me angry lir.

IMO the state already gets the voluntary sector to do a lot of its dirty work for free. Now it wants it to do even more (yet ironically they are cutting funding to non-profit sectors). Ideologically, the tories sold off everything they could in the 80's, delegated additional responsibility onto local councils (yet cut their funding) & absolve themselves of responsibility - the market will sort it out.:mad:

Now, they have nothing left to sell off. So the plan is to get as many people as possible to do stuff for free.

Doubt you'll see many tories involved in volunteering though.

silvercar

lemonjelly wrote: »

Doubt you'll see many tories involved in volunteering though.

I thought a lot of volunteering was done by "the blue rinse brigade".

Certainly the ladies round here who do the patient liaison at the hospital and provide transport to and from hospital for those unable to manage themselves look as though they would be the sort of people that would only ever vote tory. Not that I'm stereotyping.

tomterm8

lemonjelly wrote: »

Doubt you'll see many tories involved in volunteering though.

That is a little unfair, the conservative party is like any other party, there are good apples and bad apples.

To be honest, I am suspicious of the big society... if I want to volunteer at the moment I can. It's pretty easy. I don't need political parties to give me permission to help others. I even do some volunteering for various things... but, in the real world, most people are going to volunteer for fairly pleasant things, which are nice.

There are a lot of things that are desperatly needed where people are not likely to volunteer.

How many people are going to clean up the puke from an alcoholics for free, or work 12 hours a day looking after drug dealers?

Few. Damned few.

Heck, with a lot of care work, people aren't even willing to do it for a salary, we have to import people from poland.