Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

LydiaJ

vivatifosi wrote: »

Fair point. Chris Moyles has a lot to answer for. I know more teenage girls than boys. I wonder if there is a gender difference in terms of tolerance.

There's very definitely a gender difference in use of language about this one. I don't know whether the girls are genuinely more tolerant, or just less obviously vocal about it even when it's entirely irrelevant.

michaels

The way I see it the words may have two meanings that the user is not linking - Eg 'Gay' as an insult is just some type of generic insult, the user may not hold any particular views about homosexuals and is definitely not thinking about sexual inclinations when they use the insult - does that make sense?

LydiaJ wrote: »

There's very definitely a gender difference in use of language about this one. I don't know whether the girls are genuinely more tolerant, or just less obviously vocal about it even when it's entirely irrelevant.

misskool

fc123 wrote: »

:kisses3:

:kisses3: Happy Birthday PN. The above...it's called ''adding value''.

I just logged on to see of there was a thread on the Oxford St Riots.....my poor staff were terrrifiied and had to leave early (but I still paid them for the hours they couldn't work) and we lost a a serious 8 fig sum in T/O.

is the shop still ok? I hid away in Kensington today for my meetings, a world away from all the troubles in London today

lemonjelly

Hey fc! :wave:

sent you a cheeky pm!

Hi all, bowls season started today. A cup game. I lost () but at least the team won.

On the gay question, I'd disagree that it isn't an issue. I do feel it is easier to come out nowadays. I still feel that there are many who will dislike/discriminate against anyone who is gay. I fights, gay terms as derogatory comments are generally used a lot.

What I'd be asking, is why you'd feel the need to tell the girl? Is she a family member? Is she a close family friend?

I'd be hoping that she has taken this decision seriously enough to think about it fully, & with relevant weight added to any history. She may well be aware, after all, not exactly the type of thing you can keep secret - especially if he's still living in the same area.

When I was younger, & working in a pub, there was a gay chap in there, who used to lust after me. There is a hilarious story about when he came onto me - that is for another time, but it is mainly funny as poor little oblivious me had no idea he was gay! However, that was almost 15 years ago. It was well known locally that he was gay. He is now married, & as far as I am aware, happily. I don't know whether they have kids even.

GDB2222

fc123 wrote: »

:kisses3:

:kisses3: Happy Birthday PN. The above...it's called ''adding value''.

I just logged on to see of there was a thread on the Oxford St Riots.....my poor staff were terrrifiied and had to leave early (but I still paid them for the hours they couldn't work) and we lost a a serious 8 fig sum in T/O.

8 figure? That's £10,000,000 plus. All lost in one afternoon?

fc123

misskool wrote: »

is the shop still ok? I hid away in Kensington today for my meetings, a world away from all the troubles in London today

I only know the bits we saw on news 24....as staff called to say they were being sent home and store was closing (about 4pm) so we did that modern thing of 'watching the riot on the telly in real time''.
There has been a lot of subversive going on over the past months that I cannot write about as I want to write as 'me' not under an anon and don't mind being ID'd as 'me..if that makes sense.


It looked to me like a lot of people standing about making films of the riot with the odd person in a balaclava chucking a missile.

I know the threat was bad as they closed and I am very aware how A* the security is up there.....you feel dead safe with them around.....which is nice as I recall having an indie store and a protest in Brighton happened and we couldn't afford to board up so had to just cross our fingers.

PasturesNew

fc123 wrote: »

:kisses3:

:kisses3: Happy Birthday PN. The above...it's called ''adding value''.

I just logged on to see of there was a thread on the Oxford St Riots.....my poor staff were terrrifiied and had to leave early (but I still paid them for the hours they couldn't work) and we lost a a serious 8 fig sum in T/O.

It all feels a bit odd as the b/day was about 4 months ago now - and I just stayed quiet

Adding value ... I guess I can see that; I'll have invested many months of re-skilling, costs, research, 100 hours/week researching/thinking/investigating into producing something that by then will be "p155 easy", so I guess so. It just feels so .... fraudulent.

I saw a bit of the news earlier and thought of you.

Excuse my maths, but isn't an 8 figure sum:
1 figure = £1-9
2 figures = £10-99
3 figures = £100-999
4 figures = £1,000-9,999
5 figures = £10,000-99,999
6 figures = £100,000-999,999
7 figures = £1,000,000-9,999,999
8 figures = £10 million?

PasturesNew

RenovationMan wrote: »

I have a pal who is a plasterer and does work on plaster mouldings. It's a delight to watch his do it, one minute there is just a blob of plaster and he drags a mould across it and, hey presto, new cornice!

I had a go and made a right mess of it. Plastering is a real art form!

Does he want a free worker for 1-3 months? I'm really quite interested in it. Let's say 1 month tops, I've a short attention span and lots of beaches to sit on.

I could pop round some old gaffs and make them good again

LydiaJ

LydiaJ wrote: »

There's very definitely a gender difference in use of language about this one. I don't know whether the girls are genuinely more tolerant, or just less obviously vocal about it even when it's entirely irrelevant.

michaels wrote: »

The way I see it the words may have two meanings that the user is not linking - Eg 'Gay' as an insult is just some type of generic insult, the user may not hold any particular views about homosexuals and is definitely not thinking about sexual inclinations when they use the insult - does that make sense?

Absolutely. I don't think the boys using "gay" as a generic insult are thinking about sexuality at all - half the time they apply the term to inanimate objects or foolish actions with no sexuality at all anyway. I can't imagine that a gay young person would feel that coming out was no big deal in an environment where the word commonly has both meanings, though.

There have been articles about it recently in the educational press recently - the TES magazine, for example.

PasturesNew

It's funny when my real life collides with the life of somebody from "up country". Had a relative down for a few days this week and stuff they take for granted just didn't exist and they were confused by this.

1] On trains, apparently, there are power sockets for laptops/phones. Not on our trains there aren't. They'd assumed they could charge their mobile phone up and didn't try to do that until they got on the train from Paddington.... no, no sockets.

2] At Doctors, apparently, if you're going to be referred, you go to a screen and choose when/where you'll be seen. No, not here. Here you wait several days before somebody phones you with an appointment, no choice of hospital, there's only one.

3] There aren't any public loos in big shops; there aren't any big shops. National chain shops are tiny and have no public loos... you actually have to go and find a public loo block. Big shops, well, national names, don't have cafes in them - because they're too small. You have to actually go and find a cafe if you want one.

4] There's nothing going on. Nothing to do. No events. You can't pick up a paper and see places to go, coffee mornings, events... they don't exist unless it's peak season and a weekend.

Twas quite a culture shock for them ... yet for me these things are my "norm".