Saniflo Macerator & toilet

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keystone wrote: »

Like this:



Cheers

Excellent suggestion keystone. It may be possible - I'd need to look into it some more. The exit for the saniflo must be where the original toilet is. So this would mean in your visual: the waste coming from the sink, picking up in the shower, then from the shower into the saniflo and then along the left hand wall to right angle and go back out. It could be feasible.

I'd also have to move a little radiator on that left hand wall. The plumber will love me!

Still a very good suggestion and lovely of you to visualise it too! Very much appreciated!

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Canucklehead wrote: »

Hi.
We are well.Thanks.


If it's tight use an offset quadrant?

Cool!. I've bought the quadrant and enclosure now . But as you say I could have got an offset in. D'OH!!!!!! Which I'd probably prefer. I could always sell the enclosure and tray on ebay, it's just always a pain!

Saniflos are not my favourite method of delivering waste to drain but my opinion is not quite as extreme as GRM's

FITTED PROPERLY and USED APPROPRIATELY (organic waste only, as they say in the installation instructions) they work well enough.


GSR.

Yeah - everyone I've spoke to about them isn't a fan, though it's the only way, and as said I'll ensure there's only liquid waste!

keystone

typeractive wrote: »

....the waste coming from the sink, picking up in the shower, then from the shower into the saniflo and then along the left hand wall to right angle and go back out.

That'll be 3 separate waste pipes then or you'll get syphonage of the basin trap or the shower trap and nasty niffs will subsequently permeate the environment.

The plumber will love me!

Yep!

and lovely of you to visualise it too! Very much appreciated!

Only p'shopped your pic a bit.

Cheers

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keystone wrote: »

That'll be 3 separate waste pipes then or you'll get syphonage of the basin trap or the shower trap and nasty niffs will subsequently permeate the environment.

Right - this is where my knowledge is limited on this subject.

So do I have one waste pipe from basin to shower and then another to the saniflo and out.

OR do I have:
basin >> saniflo,
shower >> saniflo and
saniflo out >>?

Is that possible on our drawings?

Only p'shopped your pic a bit.

Indeed, though a picture tells as thousand words as they say!

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Hi Andrew

andrew-b wrote: »

I'd avoid the saniflo completely..there's always an alternative somehow just it will require more work/expense but it will save you headaches of clearing blockages later on. Keeping things simple is best IMHO. What's below? If it's a timber floor how tall are the joists and which way do they go?

It's really not an option as we're at the front of the house here (terrace) and the soil stack is out the back :S. We looked at gettign a 4 inch soil pipe running out but ther's not enough fall and the route is complex. A no go really.

Layout...out of the two i prefer the first but i don't much like either if i'm honest! 1st one basin too near to door IMO, 2nd too squeezed in by the loo. As a third option could you put the basin in the bottom left corner instead?
Or fourth option ...toilet and shower at bottom of plan (either way) and basin on whichever side you put the shower. Or could you have a corner toilet which would make better use of the small space.

As requested.

But which are external walls (if any), any windows, where are the current drains, are there adjacent room that would be easier to take a soil pipe through?

External wall to the left. The blue block is the window. In option one I'd be able to sit and watch the day go by out of the window...whoops - scrap that as I'm only going to pee in there! lol

I am liking these ideas of repositioning the basin and toilet. I think I like the very last option the best. Basin by the window and toilet in it's original position. However, still moving the wall along. I could then hang the radiator on the top wall too. My plumber will deffo HATE me. :o

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andrew-b wrote: »

Wait a second..are you saying there was already a toilet in this room? If so why the saniflo? Or is is already saniflo'd. Getting confused!

No - sorry Andrew. This en suite used to be a bedroom. There's been no original plumbing in here (bar an old radiator - which has been ripped out anyway). The reason I say the saniflo waste must exit that way is because the pipes are all laid to the external stack reaady for the appliances to be installed if that makes sense? It's the most direct route and it would be a pointless exercise to adjust the route.

It's getting late and I've spent way too long searching, typing and creating diagrams for one night! :S

Cheers for the help though!!!! It's always a great way to share opinions and ideas on here!
:j

keystone

typeractive wrote: »

Is that possible on our drawings?

difficult to tell. From my POV atm its conceptual as I can't see it.

This is the proper theoretical (and water regs compliant) solution to avoid syphonage:

basin >> out,
shower >> out and
saniflo >> out

with basin and shower emptying into an external hopper to a single downpipe OR these two independently into the stack with saniflo also independently into the stack.

Cheers

keystone

typeractive wrote: »

This en suite used to be a bedroom.

If its a change of use of the room you'll be needing building regs approval by your local friendly BCO.

Cheers

typeractive

keystone wrote: »

difficult to tell. From my POV atm its conceptual as I can't see it.

This is the proper theoretical (and water regs compliant) solution to avoid syphonage:

basin >> out,
shower >> out and
saniflo >> out

with basin and shower emptying into an external hopper to a single downpipe OR these two independently into the stack with saniflo also independently into the stack.

Cheers

Check. Though in situations like this, surely the saniflo options come into play? I.e. picking up waste into one outlet and whoosh - off it goes. Hence all their products. I appreciate you can't see what the room is really like from my sketches. I'd have to get some pics up for ya's too! lol

By any chance are you a plumber?

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keystone wrote: »

If its a change of use of the room you'll be needing building regs approval by your local friendly BCO.

Cheers

Check - building regs all on board and approved.