Is is bad driving or an accident?

victor2

As already said, 4x4's do not make you invincible. Better, because you have power to twice as much rubber on the road, but still risky and when it comes to braking no different to a regular car except that you might have slightly bigger tyres and corresponding contact area.

cyclonebri1

optimus_primera wrote: »

I stuffed my Cortina mk5 into a hedge on ice,wasn't going fast as i knew the rd was bad, but round a sharp right hander, the cortina decided it was bored and wanted to change direction, nowt i could do about it.


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Pedantic point on my part;

You wanted a change of direction on a right hand bend, Tina didn't:D:D

And to be deadly serious there was something you could have done about it as you were driving too fast for the bend under those conditions, wheather (pun intended) you realised it at the time or not, ;)

MrsE_2

victor2 wrote: »

As already said, 4x4's do not make you invincible. Better, because you have power to twice as much rubber on the road, but still risky and when it comes to braking no different to a regular car except that you might have slightly bigger tyres and corresponding contact area.

I never said they do.

What they do do, is deter people from tailgating & make it easier to get going (off my sloping drive) in the snow.

cyclonebri1

MrsE wrote: »

I never said they do.

What they do do, is deter people from tailgating & make it easier to get going (off my sloping drive) in the snow.

But it is a misconception that some people have, ie that they are better in snowy and icy conditions. Under braking, especially on ice, they are just as likely to find the ditch as any other motor ;)

Strider590

MrsE wrote: »

I never said they do.

What they do do, is deter people from tailgating & make it easier to get going (off my sloping drive) in the snow.

I think that's because nobody can see around the f*cking things when they need to overtake.
Tailgating is wrong, but with lower/smaller cars you can see through the car to the road ahead.
Being behind a 4x4 is like being stuck behind a truck or a van.... Only your much more likely to get attitude from the driver, who will probably try to accelerate and stop you overtaking.

cyclonebri1

Strider590 wrote: »

I think that's because nobody can see around the f*cking things when they need to overtake.
Tailgating is wrong, but with lower/smaller cars you can see through the car to the road ahead.
Being behind a 4x4 is like being stuck behind a truck or a van.... Only your much more likely to get attitude from the driver, who will probably try to accelerate and stop you overtaking.

Steady Strider;)
Based on todays weather, and we had 4" again this morning, I also came to the conclusion that a lot of 4x4's are effectively wasted in the hands of those who simply could not drive anything in the snow, no offence MrsE,,directed past you.

As regards seeing round them?, thatys not difficult and if you keep your distance, hint hint, you can see through them.

I past a couple of cars today thast were struggling, the 4x4s behind me didn't. but the other day waiting for an artic to clear a land rover zig zig zagged through the lot in perfect safety:T

It's not the car it's the driver;);););)

MrsE_2

Strider590 wrote: »

I think that's because nobody can see around the f*cking things when they need to overtake.
Tailgating is wrong, but with lower/smaller cars you can see through the car to the road ahead.
Being behind a 4x4 is like being stuck behind a truck or a van.... Only your much more likely to get attitude from the driver, who will probably try to accelerate and stop you overtaking.

Hang back a bit, you will see better to overtake.