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This is ASDA car park in Huddersfield.
Every single one of those cars has this stuck to their windscreen;
PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!
This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.
We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.
For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
1. What you should know about these companies
It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.
2. What happens to people who don't pay?
In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.
The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:
- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.
-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.
3. Can they affect my credit rating?
NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.
IN SHORT
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.
You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.
DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.
Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
THEY ARE NOT FINES
Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.
What i would suggest to people to get the word out is, copy and print the above then next time you go shopping stick them on windscreens it's another way to get the word out about the scammers. Take pictures and post them up.
There was a lot more stuck on windscreens too what's not shown there.
Be as pro-active as the scammers are with their "ticket's" it's the only way to defeat them.
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http://img10.imageshack.us/i/pb270096.jpg/
http://img340.imageshack.us/i/pb270097.jpg/
http://img829.imageshack.us/i/pb270098.jpg/
http://img146.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=pb270094.jpg
This is ASDA car park in Huddersfield.
Every single one of those cars has this stuck to their windscreen;
PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!
This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.
We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.
For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
1. What you should know about these companies
It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.
2. What happens to people who don't pay?
In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.
The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:
- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.
-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.
3. Can they affect my credit rating?
NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.
IN SHORT
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.
You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.
DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.
Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
THEY ARE NOT FINES
Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.
What i would suggest to people to get the word out is, copy and print the above then next time you go shopping stick them on windscreens it's another way to get the word out about the scammers. Take pictures and post them up.
There was a lot more stuck on windscreens too what's not shown there.
Be as pro-active as the scammers are with their "ticket's" it's the only way to defeat them.
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the car park where the scam-monkeys attempted to extort my hard-earned moolah from me a few months ago will be visited by moi again tomorrow.
now if I can just get my printer working...0 -
Keep up the good work, both of you! :beer:0
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Driver8 you are a legend! :TPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
im gonna have to get some paper.. xmas is coming and i can feel town and shity issuing tickets in my local asdaSealed pot challenger # 10
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You should really get a life. Have you thought about seeking psychiatric help?0
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TBH I'd be mildly annoyed if anything was placed on my windscreen regardless of the content (obviously more-so if it is trying to sell stuff I just do not want though), I tend to take a brief look and let it drop to the floor (yes that could be considered littering but I argue the person who put it on my car littered). I am particularly annoyed if my wiper blade has been lifted to place items on. It may be better to leaflet solely cars that have had a ticket placed on them as that will also help spread the word and prevent that particular invoice being paid. Or even better to laminate it and use some cheap exterior adhesive to cover up the PPC's signs (this could be considered criminal damage though).0
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cutandshut wrote: »You should really get a life. Have you thought about seeking psychiatric help?
Do be quiet.
I am far removed from requiring any psychiatric help. It's people like you, who sit back and do nothing, that PPC's can get away with their so called demand's for money. Not with me they don't.
I sincerely hope you or your family get a ticket, let's see where you come running.
Don't fight fire with fire, fight it with a flamethrower.
It's a good job people like you weren't around in 1939 wasn't it?0 -
Do be quiet.
I am far removed from requiring any psychiatric help. It's people like you, who sit back and do nothing, that PPC's can get away with their so called demand's for money. Not with me they don't.
I sincerely hope you or your family get a ticket, let's see where you come running.
Don't fight fire with fire, fight it with a flamethrower.
It's a good job people like you weren't around in 1939 wasn't it?
I don't see the connection with 1939. Have the PPCs invaded Poland?
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torontoboy45 wrote: »the car park where the scam-monkeys attempted to extort my hard-earned moolah from me a few months ago will be visited by moi again tomorrow.
now if I can just get my printer working...(:D)
My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
If anyone wants a quick and handy print out PDF I have knocked one together here...
http://www.an1.co.uk/ppc.pdf
For anyone who wants to try their hand at editing it it was created using the free opensource software called Scribus which is available to download at http://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-devel/1.3.9/scribus-1.3.9-win32-install.exe/download for Windows and other operating systems at http://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-devel/1.3.9/ and the file used to create the above PDF I created is available at http://www.an1.co.uk/ppc.sla0
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