It's Bloody Cold Here - Is Global Warming All Over?

Really2

RenovationMan wrote: »

I read that the earth is due to enter a new ice age and that the slight warming and resulting melting of ice caps was a natural prelude to this.

Intrestingly, and you are never really told this. it is only the ice at the north pole that has been getting thiner.
I believe the ice in the south pole is getting thicker.

RenovationMan

Really2 wrote: »

Intrestingly, and you are never really told this. it is only the ice at the north pole that has been getting thiner.
I believe the ice in the south pole is getting thicker.

And when they talk about the icecaps melting in Greenland, it's only the (much smaller) Western one. The larger Eastern one is getting thicker. (I may have my Wests and Easts mixed up deliberately to just add to the misinformation surrounding global warming )

davetrousers

It's Bloody Cold Here - Is Global Warming All Over?

Here and Global are quite different!

andykn

RenovationMan wrote: »

I read that the earth is due to enter a new ice age and that the slight warming and resulting melting of ice caps was a natural prelude to this. All I do know is that within a couple of weeks I'm having TLX Gold multi foil insulation installed over my rafters, making the top of the roof airtight, yet vapour permable and then having 100mm of Celotex PIR insulation installed between and under the rafters. I should beat Part L building regs of 0.2 U values, which is pretty good for a house build in the 1700s!

I'm getting ready for the end of the world, but instead of me wearing a tin foil hat, I'm putting it on my house.

Solar activity is quite low at the moment, it reached it's "modern maximum" in the 50s. Even with that, snow came earlier only 17 years ago when the sun was more active, Something's keeping us warmer, if it ain't CO2 it beats the hell outta me what it might be.

lemonjelly

Generali wrote: »

I got sunburn cycling to work this am :-(

My heart bleeds for you...;)

pinkteapot

ILW wrote: »

The lives of many people would be terrible if there were no polar bears, cannot think of any though.

Lost would have made marginally more sense without any polar bears.

pinkteapot

andykn wrote: »

Solar activity is quite low at the moment, it reached it's "modern maximum" in the 50s. Even with that, snow came earlier only 17 years ago when the sun was more active, Something's keeping us warmer, if it ain't CO2 it beats the hell outta me what it might be.

Wouldn't it be marvellous if the headlines in 20-50 years were "Increased CO2 emissions in the late 20th Century saved us from an Ice Age"

andykn

Really2 wrote: »

Intrestingly, and you are never really told this. it is only the ice at the north pole that has been getting thiner.
I believe the ice in the south pole is getting thicker.

This was predicted in 1988 as a result of warming, paradoxically enough. Something to do with deep ocean currents being overturned. Explained better here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/02/antarctica-is-cold/

And the paper referenced at the end.

andykn

pinkteapot wrote: »

Wouldn't it be marvellous if the headlines in 20-50 years were "Increased CO2 emissions in the late 20th Century saved us from an Ice Age"

Well, "Little Ice Age" maybe. Could leave our great grandchildren with a bit of a headache once solar activity resumes.

Loughton_Monkey

So-called Global Warming is like House Prices really. Both topics are plagued by complete & utter idiots who haven't got the gumption to take a step back and think things through.

1. As we learned at school, global temperatures have changed up and down significantly through the millennia. Specifically, the 20th century was 'predicted' to be heading towards a new ice age, and looking at temperatures 1900 to date confirms that trend.

2. Similarly, house prices show an upward trend if you look at the last 50 years or so.

In both cases, just like the stock market on any particular day, you can 'zoom in' to the most miniscule point in time and see the graph going opposite to the major trend.

Global Warmists have already cottoned on (very slowly) that they are talking gibberish, which is why they now call it "Climate Change". They want to blame 4 wheel drive merchants for the cold as well, simply because they cannot afford one themselves.