We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Savings Advice Please!

2»

Comments

  • If you go with skipton RS, there is now some confusion over whether you can pay 2nd installment before the monthly anniversary. See https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2878202 for any updates on this.
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 19,244 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    benwolves wrote: »
    Will bear that in mind thankyou psychic. Regular Saver to be set up tomorow, just (after much reading and deliberation!) opened a S&S ISA with Hargreaves and Lansdowne, £50 per month into one of their managed funds (Income and Growth), fees seemed very competitive.

    The HL managed funds are not necessarily good value and many if not most managed funds do not beat the returns from the index. The annual cost (called TER) for the HSBC FTSE tracker is 0.27%, for many managed funds it is 1.5%+ (the HL fund is actually 1.84%) so your money has to grow by at least 1.23% more per year just to cover the extra charges. That might not seem a lot but compounded over many years can really add up.

    If you check the performance of the HL I&G fund over the last 5 years the index tracker has beaten it over most time periods. As they say the past is no guarantee of future performance but it is worth considering.

    Many managers get more commission etc from selling managed funds not trackers so they don't tend to get mentioned as much. If you decide to change funds it is very easy to do online via their website.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • bwlv1
    bwlv1 Posts: 316 Forumite
    So Jim is the FTSE tracker roughly the equivalent of what i have gone with through H&L?
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 19,244 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    benwolves wrote: »
    So Jim is the FTSE tracker roughly the equivalent of what i have gone with through H&L?

    If the fund you have chosen is this one

    http://www.h-l.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/h/hl-multi-manager-income--and--growth-portfolio-trust-income

    then no its not the same at all.

    The tracker fund just tracks the index (FTSE100) and doesn't rely on a manager to choose which shares to hold. If the manager gets it wrong and buys the wrong shares then the index will beat them.

    Having someone to manage the portfolio also increases the costs hence the tracker being so much cheaper as no human intervention is needed at all, just buying the exact shares that are in the FTSE100.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • bwlv1
    bwlv1 Posts: 316 Forumite
    Have had a further think, and cancelled the H&L fund and gone for the tracker, due to like you said just tracking the FTSE 100, then when i get more knowledgable i can select a more varied fund or even choose markets myself.

    Thanks again
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,181 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Have had a further think, and cancelled the H&L fund and gone for the tracker, due to like you said just tracking the FTSE 100, then when i get more knowledgable i can select a more varied fund or even choose markets myself.

    Generally the FTSE100 trackers have been poor value. The FTSE all share tracker is a better option. However, the other issue is that you are bouncing around the risk profiles. You should decide your risk first and pick investments to match that risk. Not just pick funds at random irrespective of their risk profile. Whilst the HL funds are generally poor value, the FTSE100 tracker is higher risk.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • bwlv1
    bwlv1 Posts: 316 Forumite
    That was going to be my next question, FTSE 100, 250 or All Share, or maybe another fund? Pacific had been mentioned somewhere but this is a risky one, but i am investing for the long term so i can take a bit of a risk i feel.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.