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Can I Claim JSA??

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  • pcombo
    pcombo Posts: 3,429 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »
    Please don't post such nonsense when people want help.

    Its not nonsense

    And I quote

    "People leaving work are treated as having made themselves voluntarily unemployed. This applies if you resign, walk out or are sacked for misconduct. It doesn't apply to redundancy, end of contracts or on medical grounds (which can include workplace stress), or where you can show good cause (e.g. unfair dismissal).

    Otherwise you are automatically classed as voluntarily unemployed. Unless you can disprove it, you face a sanction of up to 26 weeks without any benefit at all. Your case is referred to an Adjudication Officer who decides if it's fair and, if so, how long the sanction applies for. They will write to your employers for their side of the story. During this period you will be on no benefit, or reduced benefit in cases of hardship (see
    PENALTIES). Stinks doesn't it?

    If you leave work on medical grounds - make sure your GP will back you up. If your GP is signing you off work completely you should claim Incapacity Benefit and / or Income Support on an A1 form (claim both if you haven't paid enough NI stamps). If you want to stay on the sick you will have to pass the All Work Test - examination by a DSS doctor, once your Statutory Sick Pay (from work) runs out after 28 weeks. Contact a local advice centre or claimants group before you claim for information and help. But if you want to claim J.S.A. you must make it clear that the ill-health which caused you to leave your job does not affect your ability to do other types of work (i.e. you're still "available for work")."
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    pcombo wrote: »
    Its not nonsense

    And I quote

    "People leaving work are treated as having made themselves voluntarily unemployed. This applies if you resign, walk out or are sacked for misconduct. It doesn't apply to redundancy, end of contracts or on medical grounds (which can include workplace stress), or where you can show good cause (e.g. unfair dismissal).

    Otherwise you are automatically classed as voluntarily unemployed. Unless you can disprove it, you face a sanction of up to 26 weeks without any benefit at all. Your case is referred to an Adjudication Officer who decides if it's fair and, if so, how long the sanction applies for. They will write to your employers for their side of the story. During this period you will be on no benefit, or reduced benefit in cases of hardship (see
    PENALTIES). Stinks doesn't it?

    If you leave work on medical grounds - make sure your GP will back you up. If your GP is signing you off work completely you should claim Incapacity Benefit and / or Income Support on an A1 form (claim both if you haven't paid enough NI stamps). If you want to stay on the sick you will have to pass the All Work Test - examination by a DSS doctor, once your Statutory Sick Pay (from work) runs out after 28 weeks. Contact a local advice centre or claimants group before you claim for information and help. But if you want to claim J.S.A. you must make it clear that the ill-health which caused you to leave your job does not affect your ability to do other types of work (i.e. you're still "available for work")."

    That's not what you said. But I will admit it's less untruthful.
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    pcombo wrote: »
    Its not nonsense

    And I quote

    "People leaving work are treated as having made themselves voluntarily unemployed. This applies if you resign, walk out or are sacked for misconduct. It doesn't apply to redundancy, end of contracts or on medical grounds (which can include workplace stress), or where you can show good cause (e.g. unfair dismissal).

    Otherwise you are automatically classed as voluntarily unemployed. Unless you can disprove it, you face a sanction of up to 26 weeks without any benefit at all. Your case is referred to an Adjudication Officer who decides if it's fair and, if so, how long the sanction applies for. They will write to your employers for their side of the story. During this period you will be on no benefit, or reduced benefit in cases of hardship (see
    PENALTIES). Stinks doesn't it?

    If you leave work on medical grounds - make sure your GP will back you up. If your GP is signing you off work completely you should claim Incapacity Benefit and / or Income Support on an A1 form (claim both if you haven't paid enough NI stamps). If you want to stay on the sick you will have to pass the All Work Test - examination by a DSS doctor, once your Statutory Sick Pay (from work) runs out after 28 weeks. Contact a local advice centre or claimants group before you claim for information and help. But if you want to claim J.S.A. you must make it clear that the ill-health which caused you to leave your job does not affect your ability to do other types of work (i.e. you're still "available for work")."

    Hang on, I just clicked on the link in your post. You're using urban 75 as a source? really?
  • pcombo
    pcombo Posts: 3,429 Forumite
    Omg you seem like a real prat, Why dont you call job centre tomorrow and ask them your self. I know you cant claim JSA if you leave work voluntarily.

    Ok maybe you work in DWP/job centre
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    pcombo wrote: »
    Omg you seem like a real prat, Why dont you call job centre tomorrow and ask them your self. I know you cant claim JSA if you leave work voluntarily.

    Ok maybe you work in DWP/job centre

    :D I don't need to call them. I have hread the legislation and am familiar with the case law.

    No I don't.
  • pcombo
    pcombo Posts: 3,429 Forumite
    ok you either know it or you've heard about it.
  • dookar wrote: »
    it's a massive distance if you can't afford the travel costs.

    You won't be able to afford much at all on JSA - even less if you're sanctioned!
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    pcombo wrote: »
    ok you either know it or you've heard about it.
    What 'it'?
    You won't be able to afford much at all on JSA - even less if you're sanctioned!

    I've typed and deleted 5 sentences because I don't know how to say this.

    Very simply. Just cause is not a measure of what you can afford in one circumstance compared to the same in another circumstance.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »


    I've typed and deleted 5 sentences because I don't know how to say this.

    Very simply. Just cause is not a measure of what you can afford in one circumstance compared to the same in another circumstance.

    You're right, you don't know how to say it because what you have written makes no sense. Have another go; I'm interested.
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    You're right, you don't know how to say it because what you have written makes no sense. Have another go; I'm interested.

    You said the Op could afford less on JSA than they can whilst working. That's irrelevant to the question at hand
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