Europe-Am I missing something?

des_cartes

nearlynew wrote: »

Because logic dictates that it cannot be any other way.


Every pound or euro that any ordinary working person contributes is a pound or euro less to spend on what they want to spend it on.

Individuals spend money far more efficiently

than governments.
The eu is a vile, corrupt and sinister organisation. Run by liars and thieves for liars and thieves.

Individuals spend money far more efficiently than governments.

So using your logic, do away with all national governments and keep the EU. A much cheaper option.

des_cartes

StevieJ wrote: »

Kettle calling pot black :T STR attempted profiteer calling BTL leeches, BTW the leeches that probably put a roof over his head while his hoped for crash occurs It takes all sorts, the only thing is the 30 people who read this board are not going to help drive the market down.

To put you straight.

1. I live in a property I own outright

2. 30 people on this board may not drive the market down but 30 multiplied by 30 exponentially certainly helps to get the message across.

nearlynew

des_cartes wrote: »

Individuals spend money far more efficiently than governments.

So using your logic, do away with all national governments and keep the EU. A much cheaper option.

But the EU is a government. And a largely unelected one at that.

Central planning on such a scale is highly innefficient and leads to corruption and theft of unbelievable proportions.

We need more power to be devolved locally if we are going to move forward. Following the globalists and their agenda will lead to nothing less than economic slavery.

StevieJ

des_cartes wrote: »

To put you straight.

1. I live in a property I own outright

2. 30 people on this board may not drive the market down but 30 multiplied by 30 exponentially certainly helps to get the message across.

It gets worse :eek: so you were actually a BTL,err what was it you called them? ah yes LEECH.

Failed str gamblers? Not in my case. Prices in my target areas are already 10-15% below when I cashed in and I am confident of getting another 10-15% off in the current market. That would get me pretty close to my target 30% saving, in fact I might just do a bit of window shopping before chistmas just for fun, or I might hang on untill 2011 when tax rises, job cuts and forced selling knock another 10% off.:)

A._Badger

The sheer twadlde spouted by people trying to scare us into supporting the EU sometimes beggars belief.

Can you imagine the reaction of the real powers in Europe - the Siemens, the Renaults, the Axas, the Deutsche Telekoms and all the rest - if they were told they could no longer have free access to the supine British market?

The EU simply would not be allowed to inhibit trade with this country. Its owners have far too much to lose.

des_cartes

StevieJ wrote: »

It gets worse :eek: so you were actually a BTL,err what was it you called them? ah yes LEECH.

No. I've never been a btl,er. I merely sold a property too big for me and invested 30% of the money in property instead of 100%. I would re invest in property once prices fall in order to buy somewhere I would live in myself in a location I would want to live in my old age.

des_cartes

A._Badger wrote: »

The sheer twadlde spouted by people trying to scare us into supporting the EU sometimes beggars belief.

Can you imagine the reaction of the real powers in Europe - the Siemens, the Renaults, the Axas, the Deutsche Telekoms and all the rest - if they were told they could no longer have free access to the supine British market?

The EU simply would not be allowed to inhibit trade with this country. Its owners have far too much to lose.

As the op pointed out, It's not buying from them that would be a problem, it would be them buying from us. It's not a lot of good having access to imported BMW's or Mercs in the UK if businesses and jobs that create the wealth to buy them lose business as Europe puts up barriers to UK exporters.

A._Badger

des_cartes wrote: »

As the op pointed out, It's not buying from them that would be a problem, it would be them buying from us. It's not a lot of good having access to imported BMW's or Mercs in the UK if businesses and jobs that create the wealth to buy them lose business as Europe puts up barriers to UK exporters.

Point brilliantly missed - well done!

Let me try a simpler version.

If they shut the doors to us, we would shut the doors to them Their exporters and snappers-up of our major companies would never allow it. They need our market.

des_cartes

A._Badger wrote: »

Point brilliantly missed - well done!

Let me try a simpler version.

If they shut the doors to us, we would shut the doors to them Their exporters and snappers-up of our major companies would never allow it. They need our market.

I suspect you think that the rest of Europe needs us more than we need them, and what would Mr and Mrs Chavsunreader have to say about denying them a new BMW?

Procrastinator333

A._Badger wrote: »

The sheer twadlde spouted by people trying to scare us into supporting the EU sometimes beggars belief.

Can you imagine the reaction of the real powers in Europe - the Siemens, the Renaults, the Axas, the Deutsche Telekoms and all the rest - if they were told they could no longer have free access to the supine British market?

The EU simply would not be allowed to inhibit trade with this country. Its owners have far too much to lose.

You don't work in a business that engages in international trade do you? Or if you do, you have nothing to do with the actual trading.

Again, as I pointed out before, it isn't an issue being allowed to buy from others. No EU government would stop any part of the UK buying from EU companies.

It is when the UK tries to sell to them that the problems would arise.