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Does anyone know if this is a pyramid scam?

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  • mystic_trev
    mystic_trev Posts: 5,434 Forumite
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    Of course it's a scam - who's likely to buy fine Art off the Internet!
  • System
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    Of course its a scam like they said why go there to buy fine art, if its network marketing you want e-mail me and I can give you info on a fantastic oppurtunity and cash rich worldwide company I am involved with. no risk and no outlay!!
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  • System
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    Planline is definately NOT a so-called Pyramid scam! It has a three year plus history, 12,000 members (happy ones I may add) and growing world-wide as we speak.
    A fully staffed office in Caymen, with excellent communications, a 20 year tax exemption certificate(16.5 yrs to run) so it can provide its membership with max. returns. I have networked since 1971,and never seen the likes of the Planline system, it is astounding, so
    if and when you ever do see and grasp it, then make your comments, until then, don't try to speak from a position of ignorance and criticise something you don't understand. Court jester active member since Jan 2004.
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  • System
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    Reply to "Cos".... I don't need your round of applause to confirm my convictions, and if you look at my postings you will see that I am not anonymous, my name is Dave Smith, and Court jester is simply my username in the Planline system. Incidentaly, is "Cos" your full name?, or just a username for your postings ? Perhaps you would like my full address/bank details/and national insurance number posting on the web also, any planliner can look at my business on our site, many members know who I am and where I am from, recent articles contain dozens of innacuracies regarding planline, written from that same position of ignorance, but then again an opinion is like a rectum, everybody has one, including Mr "Cos".
    Court jester,(Dave Smith, Blackpool)
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  • COS
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    Reply to nicky.newsome@virgin.net


    Victims want their money back more than legal revenge. Pauline Jones, 58, from Kent, was conned into spending £7,000 for prints worth £300 by dodgy dealer Chappell Paige Durrant, whose sole director was Andrew Neil Laverty. It was wound up by the DTI 10 days ago. She believes there was £20,000 in the firm's business account which, she reckons, has been "confiscated by the government or spent on liquidators".

    Money circulation schemes, such as Planline and Women Empowering Women, operate on a simple premise. You pay a sum to join and then collect part of the "admission fees" of those you recruit. And the way to find new "members" is to promise they, in turn, will multiply their cash many times in a short period without effort.
    Rememember. Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
    Never pass up an opportunity to go to the bathroom.
    If you woke up breathing, congratulations! You get another chance. And finally, be really nice to your family and friends; you never know
    when, You might need them to empty your bedpan.
  • System
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    Dear "Cos"
    I see you are quoting the Guardian article by Tony Levine, I have written a reply to the inaccuracies and downright laughable suggestions regarding the similarities of Planline and Women empowering Women, which was a £3,000 entry "money queue", and was the kind of "opportunity" that anyone with sense should have avoided, no more than a doomed scam. My reply is too long to reproduce here, but highlights inaccuracies in every paragraph of Levine's article, 4 pages in total, and has been passed out to interested planliners to help combat this negative, ill-informed article. I have no idea what the schemes promoted by Ashley Jenkins or Chappel Paige Durrant consisted of, but if they swindled the public with phoney art or non-existant products, then they deserved to be closed down, a scam is a scam. The DTI are campaigning to prevent swindles and phoney investment scams, thats great, and potential victims should be protected, a search of the DTI's web site will reveal that there are no references or investigations regarding Planline, after more than three years of trading. The Guardian article appeared on Saturday November 29th 2003., since then, over 4,000 new members have joined Planline. enough said ?.
    Court jester (full name given) happy Planliner.
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  • COS
    COS Posts: 550 Forumite
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    Please tell. Have the Guardian made any sort of retraction and apoligised to planline for making false accusations ?

    Out of personal interest as you are very open about planline. How far up the Pyramid are you and how much money have you made from people below you with in the past three years ?
    Rememember. Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
    Never pass up an opportunity to go to the bathroom.
    If you woke up breathing, congratulations! You get another chance. And finally, be really nice to your family and friends; you never know
    when, You might need them to empty your bedpan.
  • Dear Cos
    I think you will agree there is a difference between suggested similarities, inaccuracies, and false accusations ! When did you last hear of a newspaper (or one of its columnists) apologise for such a thing, it usually falls well short of blatant accusations, but is worded in such a way to suggest that things are not all they should be, and goes on to suggest that Planline is
    very much like some money scam that has failed and cost participants countless thousands! Yes, I'm sure you would get an unmitigated apology for that.
    I do not have a "position" as you suggest, in a pyramid,
    I am a customer who has introduced other customers, who have happily bought artwork of varying values, and
    my payments are merely a commission for these sales, if you take the trouble to look at my posting of May 15th., you will see that I have been a member since Jan 2004, and not for three years as you suggest, so if you wish to know my income over three years, you will have to ask me again in January 2007. I have introduced six members, two of whom are very active, and my commisions are excellent, thank you.
    I would point out that I am well over 18yrs of age., of sound mind, an experienced networker, and I think I know what a scam looks like. I embrace the freedom to spend my money as I see fit, and after full discosure of
    the planline opportunity, I see many others doing the same, I certainly could not involve others in a scam and sleep nights, and I sleep very well, thank you.

    Love and Understanding, I'm going to bed, and tomorrow this site will be deleted from my favourites.

    Court jester,(Dave Smith) Blackpool.
    Really active Planline member.
  • COS
    COS Posts: 550 Forumite
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    Rememember. Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
    Never pass up an opportunity to go to the bathroom.
    If you woke up breathing, congratulations! You get another chance. And finally, be really nice to your family and friends; you never know
    when, You might need them to empty your bedpan.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,374 Community Admin
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    COS..... you seem to be a really bitter and twisted narrow minded cynic. I am not involved in any of these "scams" as you call them. However, we are all grown ups and we live in a free society. If some of the people you mentioned earlier in the thread had carried out due dilligence instead of chasing what they percieved to be the "quick buck" then perhaps they wouldn't have had their greedy fingers burnt and you wouldn't be whingeing and moaning. It's also very patronising of you to think that they need you to argue their case for them anyway!
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