another false positive ,or, is Avast5 duff

joe134

spg_SCOTT wrote: »

Joe,

Apologies...intrigued by your post, I decided to install avast! free again in a VM. I now know that things have changed...
That image in the post in the avast! forums was when i first installed avast! 5 on release...now you see something different.

Now in installation, you see this (easy to miss if you aren't really paying attention):
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3105891/Pics/OPT-OUT.png

To be honest, I am a little dissappointed...as you can see from my link above I frequent the avast! forum, and when the idea of chrome was being discussed, the main selling point was that it would be opt-in. Now that has changed...Before, not only was it opt-in, but it would stop the installation until you chose yes or no to chrome, so you would not mess it at all. I will ask about this...

Scott

EDIT: As a side note, I always go for custom install, regardless of the program...I want to see what is being installed...

Hi Scott, no prob's, I've just removed Chrome, got enough browsers, as good as it is? I actually thought I may have had it on, when I installed Avast, checked logs, and it was off..You only have to blink, and that option box has gone.:beer:

joe134

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Hi jj, lost me a bit there. Are you saying that Avast is more likely to show more false positives than AVG because of the way it works? Am I right in thinking that you are not as anti AVG as some others on this site. The thing is , The AV is not detecting it, Malwarebytes is.

Nope the trend is for more false positives to be picked up with any modern security suite .
AVG if it was a dog i would shoot it . My only recommendations are and have always been Nod32 or Kaspersky due to the pair of them getting multiple advanced+ in AV Comparatives tests .

jje

Hi jj, ok.where are the comparative tests published.Have you a link?Never heard of nod32, have Kaspersky, are they pay or free?:beer:

JJ_Egan

http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests

Paid for both nod 32 and kaspersky.

jje

closed

You seem to blaming avast for false positives being generated from another program, and preferring avg because you didn't get any fp's or detections, unless a FP was generated by avast, the choice of avast as a scanner is unconnected.

Avast has better detection rates than nod or kaspersky in the last av comparatives.

avast 99.3% detected, few fp's
nod 98.6 few fp's
kaspersky 98.3 many fp's
avg 98.3 many fp's (past tests had detections in the 80's)

All tests are based on a subset of infections in the real world, but avast is consistently near the top, which isn't bad considering it's free, and fast, and lightweight

joe134

closed wrote: »

You seem to blaming avast for false positives being generated from another program, and preferring avg because you didn't get any fp's or detections, unless a FP was generated by avast, the choice of avast as a scanner is unconnected.

Avast has better detection rates than nod or kaspersky in the last av comparatives.

avast 99.3% detected, few fp's
nod 98.6 few fp's
kaspersky 98.3 many fp's
avg 98.3 many fp's (past tests had detections in the 80's)

All tests are based on a subset of infections in the real world, but avast is consistently near the top, which isn't bad considering it's free, and fast, and lightweight

AVG is irrelevant, it just happens that it was my AV before Avast.I,ve had, MSE, Norten, Avira, Mcafee, and never had trouble with fp, s to my knowledge. I can have mcafee free through bank, nogo.thanks.Are the fp,s Avasts or Malwarebytes cause? At least MB is doing it's job, "too well "perhaps.one mans meat is another mans poison.I don,t believe in coincidences, cause and effect are better.I,m not blaming Avast, because I don,t know the reasons t the fp,s occur.But I don,t want to be complacent and cry wolf;

JJ_Egan

Last 6 tests Nod 32 6/6 advanced + kaspersky 5/6 avast 4/6 though two of the tests are on the paid for version .
The tests are usually two part test part one was the last test part two not out yet .

Having seen all the varying magazine tests top rated AV products over a number of years its a simple fact that they all have their own ideas and one will be top one month and another top the next month or with a different test .

I have only two rules in deciding what products to recommend . One is consistent long term top rankings . Second is does the program let you get infected or have you been infected using that program as your defense . A third consideration could be what sort of response do you get from the vendor or its support forums .

jje

joe134

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Last 6 tests Nod 32 6/6 advanced + kaspersky 5/6 avast 4/6 though two of the tests are on the paid for version .
The tests are usually two part test part one was the last test part two not out yet .

Having seen all the varying magazine tests top rated AV products over a number of years its a simple fact that they all have their own ideas and one will be top one month and another top the next month or with a different test .

I have only two rules in deciding what products to recommend . One is consistent long term top rankings . Second is does the program let you get infected or have you been infected using that program as your defense . A third consideration could be what sort of response do you get from the vendor or its support forums .

jje

Hi jj, just been reading the link you posted, comparisons Av,s.The last one I saw was August, Avast just ahead of AVG, but MSE, better at false positives.Are the tests, objective or subjective? As it say,s FP,s can be as much a problem as virus, as long as they are caught;one size doesn't fit all.

aliEnRIK

Theres no perfect anti virus
It helps if the user is more careful (a lot)

Regardless of the av comparitive test (Which is the best I know of) people also use their own experience. My own experience is that AVG is very poor at catching 'the latest' nasties. Which accounts for why most of the problems I have to sort out involve people with AVG on them

In your particular case, your panicking over 2 false positives. Both of which were because of malwarebytes, NOT Avast. And neither really mattered anyways

The easiest way to get infected these days (So long as your not an illegal downloader or suchlike) is through infected websites. AVG is very poor with these. NONE are perfect, and is why I personally use FIREFOX with the NOSCRIPT plugin to stop them.

If you wish to go back to AVG then fine

joe134

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Theres no perfect anti virus
It helps if the user is more careful (a lot)

Regardless of the av comparitive test (Which is the best I know of) people also use their own experience. My own experience is that AVG is very poor at catching 'the latest' nasties. Which accounts for why most of the problems I have to sort out involve people with AVG on them

In your particular case, your panicking over 2 false positives. Both of which were because of malwarebytes, NOT Avast. And neither really mattered anyways

The easiest way to get infected these days (So long as your not an illegal downloader or suchlike) is through infected websites. AVG is very poor with these. NONE are perfect, and is why I personally use FIREFOX with the NOSCRIPT plugin to stop them.

If you wish to go back to AVG then fine

Hi EnRIK, I have no intentions of going back to AVG now.I used to use Firefox with noscript plugin, cannot recall how to do noscript, banking is the main thing.At present, use IE8 for it.I don,t do illegal sites, to my knowledge, however, it is a family pc;can you enlighten me about noscript , to do it? Does NOSCRIPT affect Rapport.? PS.I notice latest version offirefox is beta on filehippo.

aliEnRIK

Never use BETA software

Noscript - blocks ALL scripts on a webpage. RIGHT CLICK the 'S' bottom right and 'allow' which scripts are needed for the webpage to run

Rapport - I wouldnt touch it with a bargepole. Its been know to slow MANY computers down and conflict with software in the hundreds.