Would renting make you bitter?

adindas

Lol, it is very good point.

Did any of you remember feeling bitter when you were renting while you were still a student.

ADINDAS

LilacPixie wrote: »

I rented as a student and cannot remember feeling 'bitter' about it. N

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE

MonkeySaving? wrote: »

I do believe that satisfies your query Mr Ghoul, feel free to visit me and have a chat about renting at bargaintastic rates via (OMG) an Estate Agents!!!, you'll want to visit the bigger house on the left of the White Cottage as you come up the private road. My door is open between 9-5:30. Feel free to contact Fidler Taylor regarding my rental status, while you're at it bring some boot polish because you'll need it after the amount of boot licking you'll be performing.. I normally use a machine but in this instance, you'll do.

Even a monkey can photoshop. As I said before, it didn't happen now did it.

nearlynew

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE wrote: »

Even a monkey can photoshop. As I said before, it didn't happen now did it.

What a TIT.

The sooner you are banned the better.



Oh, and your signature is a ridiculous pile of !!!!!! as well.

Sibley

yes you are fortunate to be in that position. renting through choice and renting through necessity (with little hope of having the choice to by in the future) are very different things.

i don't think people who are forced to rent are bitter. fearful is probably a better word. fear manifests itself in different ways between people. what most humans long for is some sort of security both now and for the future - even if it is just an illusion of security. security and love are two very strong human cravings. take away people's ability to achieve these and it can be very detrimental to their emotional and physical wellbeing.

good luck to you with your own situation - it is hard to know how you find yourself in it without knowing you. but please have some sympathy for those who are not so fortunate.

Ninky,

I want to apologize to you. I mean it as well.

Everything you wrote is spot on. As you know,on these type of boards is there are 2 groups of people ie renters and homeowners.

It wouldn't be so bad if the 2 groups just had different views and argued. It's sort of reached an extreme. A few of the renters not only want a price crash. They want to see anyone who has a house and made money broken.

In my case that had a knock on effect and made me retaliate by saying the opposite to what they wanted to hear. The posts from both sides can be very harsh.

In truth some of the renters are scumbags just wishing bad on harder working people than themselves.

Same as some of the landlords are probably nasty bits of work ripping everyone off.

In between those two rotten types you have decent people who bought a buy to let as an investment and take care of their tenants.

Also, people like yourself. Sound very good and just had the bad luck to be either born in the wrong year or live in an expensive area.

I do feel sorry for anyone decent that's priced out. Of course I do.

I know if I was in that situation I would not be wasting my life looking at house price index's and praying homeowners get made redundant and lose their homes.

You can't expect or blame homeowners for being happy about their property increasing in value either. It's bad news if you are trying to buy but fanatastic if you have a house as an investment and want to use the money to fund retirement.

I reckon if you keep working hard it will come right for you in the end. It did for me.

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE

I think the trouble, bitterness and resentment renters feel is that homeowners quite rightly look down on them like untermensch.

macaque_2

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE wrote: »

I think the trouble, bitterness and resentment renters feel is that homeowners quite rightly look down on them like untermensch.

Why is it the bulls are now so keen to label renters as bitter. In the old days you contented yourselves with gloating. Could it be a combination of fear and sour grapes?

treliac

Many years ago, as a single girl who couldn't afford to buy at the time, I felt angry that the only way I would be able to get a council home would be to bring an unwanted child into the world.

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Herbie_Hancock_I_wish

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE wrote: »

I think the trouble, bitterness and resentment renters feel is that homeowners quite rightly look down on them like untermensch.

What an amazing statement.

AD9898_2

Cleaver wrote: »

I swear that a good psychologist could have a field day with some of the psychology behind a lot of the threads and posts that go on here. You could produce at least one decent essay on this post alone.

Bloody 'ell Cleaver, you must waffle alot in your essays, I can quickly and concisely sum the contents of this post in one word 'bollox', and the poster, 'knob'

twadge_face

Sibley wrote: »

I cannot really understand why some people are bitter about renting.

True, you could look at it that you are paying off somebodies mortgage and making them rich.

How trollishly provocative.

I personally don't feel like that at all. I'm lucky to see the story from both sides of the fence. I own a house and rent one of somebody else. I don't feel at all bitter and twisted when it's rent day.

Perhaps you are the reincarnation of Mother Theresa or Ghandi, with such humble wisdom? Thank for gracing us with this insight.

Fair play to them. They had the brains and vision to buy the house and deserve a return.

Some gambled and won. Easy to congratulate yourself for your "genius" when you leave the casino £100 up on the Blackjack table. When things go t1ts-up as is widely predicted to occur, I'm sure the very same people will not consider their own avarice as part of the blame.

N.B. I had to look up what avarice meant. Here is a good link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

Greed (Latin, avaritia), also known as avarice or covetousness, is, like lust and gluttony, a sin of excess. However, greed (as seen by the church) is applied to a very excessive or rapacious desire and pursuit of wealth, status, and power. St. Thomas Aquinas wrote that greed was "a sin against God, just as all mortal sins, in as much as man condemns things eternal for the sake of temporal things." In Dante's Purgatory, the penitents were bound and laid face down on the ground for having concentrated too much on earthly thoughts. "Avarice" is more of a blanket term that can describe many other examples of greedy behavior. These include disloyalty, deliberate betrayal, or treason,I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I especially for personal gain, for example through bribery . ScavengingI][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I and hoarding of materials or objects, theft and robbery, especially by means of violence, trickery, or manipulation of authority are all actions that may be inspired by greed. Such misdeeds can include simony, where one profits from soliciting goods within the actual confines of a church.
As defined outside of Christian writings, greed is an inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth.[12]

Anyway! Back to wasting my Sunday evening by responding to lazy (but effective!) provocation...

SIBLEY wrote:

I don't consider my landlord to be a scumbag or any of the other bad names used on here to describe the person providing a roof over tenants heads.

Some landlords ARE scumbags though. Have a look at what Jon Snow has to say:

Jon_Snow wrote:

Would the UK be experiencing a welfare crisis if it were not already in the midst of a complete failure in the housing sector?

I grew up in the long shadow of Peter Rachman. He was a notorious private landlord in London who exploited the poor and tyrannised his tenants. Rachman reigned even in a time of relative council house plenty.

I think a lot of rents will have to rise soon. This will probably make the bitterness even worse.

Not half as much as when interest rates go up and we hear the squeal of "innocent" homeowners and landlords, blessed be they for their aforementioned "smart investment" (lol!).

I've not bothered reading the whole thread as I have stuff to do, but I'm sure many other posters have perhaps already made the point of asking where will the money come to pay these inflated rents?

I wish it would stop.

Your provocation and self-centred opinions only paint yourself in a bad light.

Personally I'm not bitter against any landlords who are professional and upfront, but my goodness have I run into a good (read: bad) number of cowboys who don't honour their side of the contract... specific examples I have encountered include one who stated they couldn't fix a roof because they "couldn't afford it", and another who failed to keep up their mortgage repayments hence getting repossessed.

These landlords are NOT worthy of my sympathy. They are idiotic morons who should be legislated out of the market. Sorry, yes, I advocated a little bit of red tape there... but tenants should not be treated as second class citizens.

If we are to go down the route of a larger rented sector, a la Germany (a la Allamagne?) style, then we should have large private investors - e.g. pension funds - building large swathes of property and running them in a professional manner. Indeed, I believe this has already been reported as likely to happen.

And the so-called bitterness you so astutely note shall indeed probably stop, and possibly sooner than you think, but only when it converts to unmitigated anger and rage... witness the student violence recently regarding tuition fees.

Lucky Sibley hey? Can I ask, do you just come here to gloat? Genuinely wealthy and smart people know not to mock the proles... Look at the royal family and even the Tory government. All utterly loaded but the power of this nation could easily overturn all that top-level wealth by way of a very messy and very bloody revolution.

You sense bitterness where I am profoundly unnerved by the growing dissatisfaction with the "system" as it currently stands.

Remember we're only three meals from chaos. Or something.

Cheers for the provocation, btw. It's clarified some of my manifesto in my mind. :cool: