Who can put down Yellow Lines - And who enforces them?

rev_henry

Robability wrote: »

Thanks for those links..

It looks like without a TRO the yellow lines do not have the same meaning as standard yellows. Therefore I see 2 potentials, opening up more questions:

1) Assuming that no TRO exists, the yellow lines don't mean the same as they usually would. However, the question remains does that mean the private clamping company can clamp cars parked on them or are they are restricted enforcing the parking bays?

2) If a TRO does exist, then the council should be required to enforce the yellows. If that is the case, should the private company be allowed to clamp people who park on them, or is the purely the duty of the traffic enforcement officers?

Complicated stuff!

In answer to your first question, if its private land, with no TRO the clamping company can do what the hell it wants. Its basically a free for all cowboyville. The yellow lines don't mean anything legally, but the clampers can still clamp you pretty much whenever they want to. Only until next year.

If a TRO exists then the clamping company cannot enforce it - its not their job.

flyingscotno1

darich wrote: »

I live "up here" too :beer:
Can't ever see a local authority maintaining a private road for a person/company. I know mine doesn't.

I also know that when a road that used to public reverts to the land owners ie road becomes private, my council effectively washes their hands of any maintenance.

Why should I as a tax payer pay for the maintenance of a road I cannot use? Councils "up here" do not maintain private roads. By your reasoning then, any farmer with a long drive could get their "road" maintained.

I think your misinterpreting what I'm saying- I don't think I said the above, indeed I said the owners of the private road have to maintain it in the quote!

No I'm talking about the placing of yellow lines or parking restrictions and regulations. These can be placed by councils on private roads subject to standard procedures. I'm not talking about regulations only.

As an aside on maintenance they can also force work to make the road a suitable standard. 2 reasons why a council may maintain a private road- they may have an agreement with residents or with other bodies to maintain it, usually chargeable (this does happen) or what can also happen is the council owns land which they need to access via said private road and thus would have to partially pay for maintenance anyway and often strike a deal.

Wig

rev_henry wrote: »

but the clampers can still clamp you pretty much whenever they want to. Only until next year.

As long as there are clear signs at the entrance to the street, and clearly visible from where one would park (on the yellows) saying clamping is being used and clearly saying/explaining which areas the clamping covers, i.e. the yellow lined areas.


What you need to first do is ask your local highways authority "Is the street adopted?"

If it is adopted then the yellow lines mean nothing to the private company and they cannot interfere with any vehicle parked thereon. You can complain to the council/police about enforcement of those lines and they will deal with it in line with their assessment of the priority it deserves.

spiro

Strider590 wrote: »

On a similar note.....

Who puts down and pays for the "please keep clear" boxes outside the entrances to the homes of the over-privileged who's driveways exit onto a main road?

I could use one of those little boxes myself, it would be shared by my entire street of course, as we all find it a nightmare exiting our road in the morning......
Far more use to my entire street than to just Tarquin in his Merc AMG....

I presume you mean you are driving out of a side road onto another road and cars are parked so close to the corner that you can see/get out easily. The Highway Code says 'Do not
park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space'. If you believe the parking at the junction is an issue, contact your local council. If you lucky they may paint double yellow lines around the junction.

Strider590

^^ No I mean where their actual 50m long driveway exits onto a main road and there's a "keep clear" box to allow them into traffic rather than waiting for someone to give way.

Here's one I used to pass years ago

I can't imagine the council doing that for an individual property unless they a) paid a back hander b) played golf with a local councillor c) were a local councillor.

My road is a nightmare in the morning with 50+ people leaving for work, there's a set of lights on the main road to the right, so if your turning right out of the street you can't move when the lights are green (traffic both directions) and when they go red the road is blocked on the other side with queued cars.

rev_henry

Strider590 wrote: »

^^ No I mean where their actual 50m long driveway exits onto a main road and there's a "keep clear" box to allow them into traffic rather than waiting for someone to give way.

Here's one I used to pass years ago

I can't imagine the council doing that for an individual property unless they a) paid a back hander b) played golf with a local councillor c) were a local councillor.

My road is a nightmare in the morning with 50+ people leaving for work, there's a set of lights on the main road to the right, so if your turning right out of the street you can't move when the lights are green (traffic both directions) and when they go red the road is blocked on the other side with queued cars.

I do know you can pay the council to paint one of those ¦

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¦ things across your driveway but that obviously doesn't mean the same thing as a Keep Clear sign.

flyingscotno1

Strider590 wrote: »

^^ No I mean where their actual 50m long driveway exits onto a main road and there's a "keep clear" box to allow them into traffic rather than waiting for someone to give way.

Here's one I used to pass years ago

I can't imagine the council doing that for an individual property unless they a) paid a back hander b) played golf with a local councillor c) were a local councillor.

My road is a nightmare in the morning with 50+ people leaving for work, there's a set of lights on the main road to the right, so if your turning right out of the street you can't move when the lights are green (traffic both directions) and when they go red the road is blocked on the other side with queued cars.

Many councils will do it if there is a problem with queuing traffic blocking a road and in certain circumstance a driveway. Phone or write and ask.