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Do I have a right to be upset about this?
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I have to say when I first read the OP, I was outraged but when you actually stop and think for a minute you do wonder. These days people can't lift a paper clip without doing so many H&S courses. Now we hear that staff are lifting disabled people upstairs, I have to say I agree with your pov.
And they were early, so presumably all the less conscientious claimants he mentions, passed them on their way up to the classroom...
But not one of them offered to open the door, and he/she didn't ask one of them either...?
Sorry but I think we have a poster who is desperate to avoid anything remotely 'difficult' but wants money all the same.
I fail to see how someone who is so severely disabled (as they describe themself) would be afraid of the ESA process when the alternative is apparently so awful for them too!
I also struggle to comprehend how someone with such poor mobility receives only low rate DLA and does not attempt to change that.
They wanted to claim IS as it seemed a simple option but has now realised that won't happen, so they are seeking other ways out.
OP - you may as well face up to the fact you won't receive all the benefits you want without following JSA rules or claiming ESA.
And if you decide to live on DLA alone, it may be sensible to look at having your award upgraded, but that too will involve some imput from yourself.
I may be wrong but something seems wrong with all these posts we've been getting from the OP!0 -
To Paulrn
I would say that as most people have sympathy for the OP, your views are thankfully in the minority. Were you there? No. Enough said.
OP - I would copy your post to all the people suggested because it sums up exactly how you felt and people's replies too so MP etc knows others agree with you.
Good luck.0 -
I would say that as most people have sympathy for the OP, your views are thankfully in the minority. Were you there? No. Enough said.
OP - I would copy your post to all the people suggested because it sums up exactly how you felt and people's replies too so MP etc knows others agree with you.
Good luck.
Sometimes people can't see past emotive language tbh.
We weren't there so have no way of knowing if the OP is correct, or indeed incorrect.
When added to other posts by the OP, I'm afraid I'm inclined to wonder how much truth there is in it all.0 -
I think you should make a very serious formal complaint about the lack of access to the appointment.
I understand why the rest of the day must have been upsetting and I dread getting sent to something similar myself, but this is the current system and many people will have had similar experiences. These other issues will just complicate you complaint and could weaken your case. Whilst the whole experience does sound like a nightmare, a sucessful complaint must focus on tangible facts where clear mistakes have been made.
Appropriate access is a legal responsibility. When they realised that the lift was broken they should have either rearranged the whole session to a different venue or date, or made sure that anyone with specific access requirements was rebooked for a different day.
Expecting you to be carried up the stairs was not appropriate. You would have been completely within your rights to refuse this. I imagine the HR department would also be furious to here that an employee was told to carry you up the stairs. This is inappropriate in so many ways.0 -
And that would result in not attending the session.
That would then result in a benefit sanction.
That would then result in the o/p having to appeal.
That would then result in a long delay on no or reduced money before the facts get heard.
As the OP has substantial capital, I don't see why the latter would be a problem. His life is obviously going to be much simpler if he claims the appropriate benefit.0 -
I personally think there is more to the story than being told just like best pud has suggested.
Was the JC made aware of the extra needs of the client? Did the OP make the JC aware of their needs?
I suspect not as it was a Back to Work session. And I suspect that they assumed rightly or wrongly that everyone was able bodied as they where claiming JSA.
If the OP is as disabled as they claim to be and are claiming DLA I find it very hard to believe that they will not claim ESA.
Also what would the OP expect to happen if they are already in a building on the 1st floor and the fire alarms go off. Lifts are not allowed to be used.
When I was in college many moons ago we had a young man in a wheel chair and we all had to be taught had to use a sling to carry him down the stairs in the event of a fire.
I also find the OP rather rude and ready for a fight. "I was too afraid to interrupt the session because I was amongst people who looked like they could really harm me" Pardon!!!!!!Disabled people don't like to be labelled because of there disability. But it is ok for a disabled person to suggest that because people might look a bit rough and tough they where going to hurt them.
The session was not a one-to-one but a general one for many people. It may have been big bird stuff but that is the way it was.
I think the OP is just looking at ways to be offended and wants everyone to agree and a give a fluffy answer.
And before anyone jumps on me I have disabled husband who has mobility problems. So know what is like and how hard work it is to be carer to someone disabled. And all the barriers.
Yours
CalleyHope for everything and expect nothing!!!
Good enough is almost always good enough -Prof Barry Schwartz
If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try -Seth Godin0 -
God, this is truly tragic. I am not defending the job centre in any way, or justifying their actions in any way, but one can only assume that they are so callous about this sort of thing because they are so used to dealing with stuff that they have become desensitised by it.
Nobody, especially you should ever be made to feel humiliated or belittled like this.0 -
I have been told that its acceptable to carry me up and down stairs in public building as recently as last year and I was told that by the chief exec of the LA!
I refused this and complained, other arrangments were made on that occasion but in the tax office they tried to insist that it was acceptable to carry me down five flights of stairs when the lift broke down while I was in the office, I declined and told them that the only people I would allow to carry me is fire fighters because they are trained to do it. The lift was fixed pretty quickly on that occasion and I havnt been near the building since but being a deaf person who relys on lip reading face to face meetings are best when I have problems, I tried email but I was sent the wrong information (my husbands firm went bust owing him wages and we wanted the paperwork to apply to the goverment for the scheme they run to pay workers in this situation the bare minimum owed)
I am a full time wheelchair/powerchair user (both provided by the NHS, not bought off ebay etc.) and I do get HRMC (and have done for many years) its rediculous in this day and age its seen as acceptable to carry mobility impaired people up stairs but it happens, I fight back but many disabled people dont and the OPs best action would be to contact the EHRC who provide you with template letters to send to people who think that its acceptable to treat us in that way, they normally work (and the chief exc hired a man to ramp the building last year, not ideal but better than being treated like a sack of spuds) and they help all disabled people to be benefit.0 -
EltonJohnFan wrote: »she said just go through the door and up the stairs and that I'd be met at the top of the stairs by an advisor who would be leading the session.
I'm not disabled, so have no idea as to what would usually happen, but it strikes me as odd that
a) she would either insinuate/tell you directly to go upstairs when you are in a wheelchair
b) that you did not point this impractically out to her there and then?0 -
I'm surprised you were allowed to go up the stairs, if you had your wheelchair, OP.
the staff should have done a risk assessment and part of that would have included whether you could have safely got downstairs in a fire.
As you can't use a lift during a fire, and you would not have been able to get yourself down the stairs, I am genuinely surprised that you would have even been shown the way to the stairs area, by staff :eek:There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter0
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