Invoice today from APCOA

anewman

BLT wrote: »

Personally my preference would be that car parks are made pay on exit. However that would probably impact on the profits of companies who receive funds from individuals who overpay just to avoid getting the ticket.

There's more profit in allowing people to make errors, and subsequently issue these tickets. Notice how car park signs are often ALL CAPS and the text is all centred, and the font is rather small, plus the sign is 12 foot up a post. Makes them rather difficult to read. Just by paying someone minimum wage to lurk about a car park, you can catch everyone overstaying by 10 seconds and that nets you £80, substantially more than the next person parking would have paid even after all the associated costs of issuing them. That's why they're becoming so popular. Sadly their popularity means the cowboys are muscling in on the act too. In the end the greediness and unfairness, with appeals being turned down, will be their downturn IMO when everyone across the country knows they don't have to pay them, or they're banned just like clamping.

I agree there should be entry and exit barriers to any car park where someone wants to protect their land. They either want to protect their land or make money from it. They can't want the first but do the second.

geordie_taxi

Well done sassy will say you were lucky as most railway car parks are now council run or PPC run the ones that are run by train companys are also classed as PPC as the rail company is in theory a private company

if you got ticketed by the council then that would have been different matter but a PPC ticket is non-enforceable

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sassy_one

geordie_taxi wrote: »

Well done sassy will say you were lucky as most railway car parks are now council run or PPC run the ones that are run by train companys are also classed as PPC as the rail company is in theory a private company

if you got ticketed by the council then that would have been different matter but a PPC ticket is non-enforceable

Invoices are laughable but not as much as showing the guy issuing them you know they mean nothing and are worthless!

wealdroam

geordie_taxi wrote: »

...the ones that are run by train companys are also classed as PPC as the rail company is in theory a private company

I thought the train company run car parks were different.

Don't they exploit railway bylaws?

Coupon-mad

Most railway car parks are not covered by Railway Bylaws.

It's very rare to see a real Railway Bylaws parking ticket, I post on pepipoo forums most days and have only seen one post in 2 years with a real Bylaws ticket. Loads of fake ones though.

geordie_taxi

wealdroam wrote: »

I thought the train company run car parks were different.

Don't they exploit railway bylaws?

because under railway bylaws the PPC wouldnt get the same obscene amount of money. in fact under a bylaw they mite get £30 to £50 if lucky and the hassle of going to court but most PPC invoices are for £100 or more

so they subcontract it out to a debt collection agency who use different tactics to get their money

most of the time the debt collection agency is just another dept for the PPC same as the solicitor is

piratefairy

Is it just me? I read the OP as saying that their ticket covered them until 13.13pm, and the invoice being "issued" at 13.10pm,
ie. 3mins before their parking ticket would have run out?

peter_the_piper

Yes, you are right but it does not make a shred of difference if its a ppc,

wealdroam

geordie_taxi wrote: »

because under railway bylaws the PPC wouldnt get the same obscene amount of money. in fact under a bylaw they mite get £30 to £50 if lucky and the hassle of going to court but most PPC invoices are for £100 or more

so they subcontract it out to a debt collection agency who use different tactics to get their money

most of the time the debt collection agency is just another dept for the PPC same as the solicitor is

But tickets issued under Railway Bylaws, although very rare, should not be ignored, should they?