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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,264 Forumite
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    Virgin's FTSE All Share tracker has a TER of 1%, and I believe the cheapest at the moment is HSBC's at 0.27%.
    Vanguard and Blackrock are cheaper but you tend to find they are only present on IFA based platforms. That said, Blackrock have just launched class A trackers in September in addition to the already present class D ones. The class A ones will typically be aimed at the retail market whereas the class D tend to be aimed at the higher value platforms (Skandia and Novia for example and shortly Transact hopefully as I have asked to get them added on there and they are looking into it) and institutional market. I dont know the TERs on the class A trackers yet but the Class D are 0.22% for UK. One of the big advantages of blackrock (other than low cost) is the wider range. They have a global emerging market tracker for example as well as a corp bond tracker and gilt tracker (more common). The class A is a sub fund of class D and has performed slightly worse than the class D in the 1 month three weeks it has been running. That would suggest slightly higher charges.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • redmalc
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    Hi can someone advise if it is correct that you cannot transfer from Fidelity Funds Network to HL as funds ,if that is correct do you have to draw as cash and lose the ISA wrapper because i was just about to look at transfering a substantial number of years S & S isa,s to HL
  • jimjames
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    redmalc wrote: »
    Hi can someone advise if it is correct that you cannot transfer from Fidelity Funds Network to HL as funds ,if that is correct do you have to draw as cash and lose the ISA wrapper because i was just about to look at transfering a substantial number of years S & S isa,s to HL

    You can still transfer within the ISA wrapper but they send the money to HL as cash so you then have to buy funds again in the HL ISA.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • Stavros_3
    Stavros_3 Posts: 1,288 Forumite
    where can I research the performance of s & s isa's, is there a table somewhere
    Liquidity is when you look at your investment portfolio and **** your pants
  • Rollinghome
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    dunstonh wrote: »
    I dont know the TERs on the class A trackers yet but the Class D are 0.22% for UK.
    Blackrock UK Equity Tracker A is listed with an AMC of 0.55% which is a tad above the going rate.

    Fidelity Moneybuilder UK Index has an AMC of just 0.10% but that isn't fully reflected in its return which trails some with a slightly higher AMC. For most people, unless they need the flexibilty of ETFs, the HSBC tracker funds, which are among the few trackers that H-L don't make an additional ISA management charge for, are likely to be the best bet. An alternative for those who want to grab the £50 cashback via Quidco would be an L&G tracker bought direct.
  • dunstonh
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    Blackrock UK Equity Tracker A is listed with an AMC of 0.55% which is a tad above the going rate.

    So sticking to the class D versions is best then as expected.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • le_loup
    le_loup Posts: 4,047 Forumite
    Stavros wrote: »
    where can I research the performance of s & s isa's, is there a table somewhere
    No such thing.
    You need to look at FUND performance. Try Trustnet at http://www.trustnet.com/
  • Rollinghome
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    dunstonh wrote: »
    So sticking to the class D versions is best then as expected.
    Yes, rather than the Blackrock A class though perhaps worth noting that the D class has also done maginally less well than the HSBC FTSE All Share Index fund: 14.02%/35.58% up on one/five years for the HSBC offering as against 13.91%/35.23% for the BlackRock UK Equity Tracker D class.

    In reality, so close that it could vary from month to month.
  • dunstonh
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    Yes, rather than the Blackrock A class though perhaps worth noting that the D class has also done maginally less well than the HSBC FTSE All Share Index fund: 14.02%/35.58% up on one/five years for the HSBC offering as against 13.91%/35.23% for the BlackRock UK Equity Tracker D class.

    In reality, so close that it could vary from month to month.

    I have blackrock (D) at 35.23% over 5 year compared to HSBC (retail) at 32.34%, HSBC (class A) at 34.10% and HSBC (institutional) at 35.58%.

    So, anyone considering which platform to use needs to look at what versions of the funds are on offer with that platform
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • jimjames
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    Stavros wrote: »
    where can I research the performance of s & s isa's, is there a table somewhere

    An ISA is only a wrapper that can contain funds or shares or (if a cash ISA) cash. An ISA itself doesn't therefore have any performance. To look at how different funds have done in the past then sites such as Trustnet or This is Money have performance as do many brokers such as HL or iii.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
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