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Racists & Xenophobes: Threatening the economic prosperity of Britain.

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    olly300 wrote: »
    They tend to post mostly in discussion time.

    I'm sure you have responded to one of them in the past due to their anti-Semitic rants.

    BTW Jewish people and Sikhs are a race under the Race Discrimination Act but I'm sure you know that already.

    I know there are some in DT.

    But not so much on this forum.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    The problem is that we are all racist, me especially.

    I believe that everyone should be treated equality whatever the sex,colour of skin, race they are.

    Which in the eyes on the law, makes me a racist, as I dont believe in positive discrimination.
  • Dave101t
    Dave101t Posts: 4,157 Forumite
    is being gentlemanly towards a lady positive discrimination?
    or should i let the door slam in her face to be 'neutral'!
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  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    Can I ask a dumb question? I'm going to anyway.

    Who are these racists. I haven't noticed any, which has me fearing if all you lot can spot them, and I can't, maybe I'm one of them.

    Or are they someone who appears to disagree with the OP? Which means, I'm still a racist.


    I must admit I have noticed a marked decline in racist posts here lately, so I'm not sure what Hamish is on about. Nothing new there I suppose.

    Curiously, the racism seemed to ebb away around the time marklv left.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    The UK has over 2 million unemployed (and rising). I truly fail to see why it would be considered racist to suggest that maybe the door should be shut to non UK citizens (of any race) until we clear some of that joblessness.

    Immigrant labour tends to be fairly elastic i.e. they will move wherever there are jobs available.

    Domestic labour sources aren't so much, due to family ties and so forth - hence why I suspect immigration is still required.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    FTBFun wrote: »
    Immigrant labour tends to be fairly elastic i.e. they will move wherever there are jobs available.

    Domestic labour sources aren't so much, due to family ties and so forth - hence why I suspect immigration is still required.

    Could that comment be construed as racist?
    Are you saying that immigrants do not have families?
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Could that comment be construed as racist?
    Are you saying that immigrants do not have families?

    Err, no.

    An immigrant (or family of immigrants) could be more flexible where they choose to live in the UK if they do not have any ties here currently. Hence, it is easier for them to move somewhere where the jobs are.

    I know this doesn't apply to all immigrants, but I suspect it applies to a fair few.
  • BritRael
    BritRael Posts: 1,158 Forumite
    Cleaver wrote: »
    I tend to agree with Hamish that quite a few racists also tend to be pretty dumb. I think disliking or judging someone unfairly based on the colour of their skin, their race or the country they come from is a pretty stupid thing to do.

    Totally agree.

    This is where the OP and the 'you're a racist if you're against immigration' crowd on here have it wrong; personally, I am against this open-door imigration policy and not only want it stopped, but reversed. In the same way a few years ago the Welsh had the 'come home to a real fire' campaign. They were not against the colour or race of the 'immigrants' (who were predominantly white and English), it was the numbers and the adverse effect on the local community of a huge influx of 'rich' people buying up their homes.
    Nationally, the anti-immigration view is against a massive influx of low or un-skilled cheap labour, of any colour (including white). In my humble opinion, we have enough un-employed low or un-skilled British people already without creating any more, but they simply cannot compete against imported cheap competition.
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  • abaxas wrote: »
    Which in the eyes on the law, makes me a racist, as I dont believe in positive discrimination.

    Positive discrimination is illegal!

    (Apart from in some disability cases)
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    I notice this forum has been invaded by racists and xenophobes of late.

    Anyone with half a brain knows full well that their anti-immigrant rantings have no basis in reality.

    In fact, you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that sort of nonsense.

    And it turns out they are.....

    Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion.

    Racists have lower IQs than non-racists.

    The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale. The average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945).

    The future prosperity of Britain is dependant on increasing the collective intelligence and knowledge base of our people, in order to compete more effectively with the rest of the world in what is increasingly a knowledge based economy.

    So whilst it is unknown as to whether racism attracts stupid people, or whether being stupid leads to a predisposition towards racism, it does seem clear that any increase in racism, and thus stupidity, is a genuine threat to the economic prosperity of Britain.

    Discuss.


    Translation:

    We need to let as many people into the UK as possible so that my piles of bricks are worth more.
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