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Bathroom wall/floor construction help?

bery_451
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Hi,

we stripped the whole bathroom till there is just brick wall/concrete floor and copper pipes left.

I know the bathroom is the wettest/moisture/dampest part of the house so is the construction of bathroom walls different to other walls? what about bathroom floors?

We like the walls/floor to be moisture/damp/water resistant so what do we need?

thanks,
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  • 27col
    27col Posts: 6,554 Forumite
    As far as I know there is not the slightest difference in method of construction. Why should there be? I for one do not have a wet bathroom. No condensation and a towel and mat on the floor for when I get out of the bath. Hardly any more damp than any other room in the house. Obviously, it would be different if it were a wet room.
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  • bery_451
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    27col wrote: »
    As far as I know there is not the slightest difference in method of construction. Why should there be? I for one do not have a wet bathroom. No condensation and a towel and mat on the floor for when I get out of the bath. Hardly any more damp than any other room in the house. Obviously, it would be different if it were a wet room.

    we got a large family with kids and the bathroom is in constant use. so thats why we are concerned.

    Im sure the walls and floors of the bathroom must be different to other walls/floors of the house cause of the wetness.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    bery_451 wrote: »
    Im sure the walls and floors of the bathroom must be different to other walls/floors of the house cause of the wetness.
    No not usually. Ceramic/porc/natural stone tiles would be your best bet as well as teaching them that the majority of the water really should remain within the bath/shower/WHB.

    Cheers
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  • phill99
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    Keystone is right.

    The walls and floors are no different to other rooms in the house. What makes it different is the finishing treatment of the walls/floors eg ceramic/porcelain/etc tiles plus good workmanship & detailing and appropriate use of correct materials like adhesives and grout.

    The idea is that the walls and floors don get wet - thats why you protect them.

    Ask any builder and they will tell you there is no difference in construction for the bathroom as opposed to other parts of the house.
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  • vaio
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    might have changed now but when we were doing studwork for bathroom walls we used to vb, eml, render & skim on the bathroom side rather than plasterboard & skim
  • bery_451
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    vaio wrote: »
    might have changed now but when we were doing studwork for bathroom walls we used to vb, eml, render & skim on the bathroom side rather than plasterboard & skim

    whats vd, eml, render, skim mean?

    thanks,
  • vb = vapour barrier; eml = expanded metal lathing; render = first coat of plaster; skim = finishing coat of plaster

    Often these days moisture resistant plasterboard is specified for 'wet' areas when there are stud walls. Otherwise usually no different construction than normal. Appropriate surface finishes and ventilation are the essential things.
  • bery_451
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    themacster wrote: »
    vb = vapour barrier; eml = expanded metal lathing; render = first coat of plaster; skim = finishing coat of plaster

    Often these days moisture resistant plasterboard is specified for 'wet' areas when there are stud walls. Otherwise usually no different construction than normal. Appropriate surface finishes and ventilation are the essential things.

    sorry for being a newbie but what are stud walls?

    what you mentioned above only apply to stud walls?

    moisture resistant plasterboard is an alternative to vb, eml, render and skim?

    thanks,
  • keystone
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    Stud walls are wooden frame non-load bearing construction normally faced with plasterboard screwed directly to it.

    Mositure resistant plasterboard is not use if the finish (tiles as said above for example) still lets the water in and things gently rot away underneath. Its the finish thats the key as said several times further up the thread.

    Cheers
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  • bery_451
    bery_451 Posts: 1,917 Forumite
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    keystone wrote: »
    Stud walls are wooden frame non-load bearing construction normally faced with plasterboard screwed directly to it.

    Mositure resistant plasterboard is not use if the finish (tiles as said above for example) still lets the water in and things gently rot away underneath. Its the finish thats the key as said several times further up the thread.

    Cheers

    i just want to be safe than sorry just in case the sealant, grout around the bath fails and lets the water through.

    so your recommendation is just normal wall reconstruction like any other wall in the house cause the tiles will protect it from water?

    i could leave the window open for ventilation but the bathroom gets cold. Whats the best ventilation to use? What about dehumidifiers?
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