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Tv licence agent threatening behaviour

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  • Given the history the OP has with TVL, it was probably a genuine agent, but my first thought was it could have been a burglar attempting access.
    Whatever - my own TVL story:
    During the 1980s I didn't own a telly; had no need or desire for one at all. TVL (or whatever they were at the time) kept up a constant barrage of letters and harrassment, finally peaking when one of their agents turned up at my door and insisted on coming in. I just saw red and told him in no uncertain terms to sling his hook ( I was !!!!ed off at his implication I was lying to him). Didn't hear from them again and eventually (two years later) I bought a telly and the licence to go with it.
  • Mr.Harley_Quin
    Mr.Harley_Quin Posts: 126 Forumite
    edited 23 October 2010 at 4:41PM
    Tell them to go away!

    I always download what I want to watch and that does not require a TV licence. It is legal and I have no desire to explain myself.

    Return all mail un-opened and stop being such a wuss!
    "Mr. Quin smiled, and a stained glass panel behind him invested him for just a moment in a motley garment of coloured light..."
  • p00hsticks
    p00hsticks Posts: 14,461 Forumite
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    sarahg1969 wrote: »
    Only hassle for them. Ignoring them is no hassle to you.

    My mistake - I was under the impression that the OP was getting severely hassled - if not, why is he posting ?
  • kwaks
    kwaks Posts: 494 Forumite
    Tell them to go away!

    I always download what I want to watch and that does not require a TV licence. It is legal and I have no desire to explain myself.

    Return all mail un-opened and stop being such a wuss!


    You sure?

    Have you read what I posted above?

    IF you have a device installed which is capable of recieving these signals then you DO require a licence by law.

    Now I don't want to open a new revenue stream for them, however people should be aware of what the law actually states just in case they fall foul of it.
  • kwaks wrote: »

    Have you read what I posted above?

    I have struggled through your posts.

    The OP stated that he does not have a TV, so he does not need a TVL. Downloading broadcasts is not receiving a broadcast. No license is needed.

    He needs to write on the envelopes and return them unopened and tell any 'checkers' to clear off. NOTHING MORE! DO NOT LET THEM SCARE YOU!

    Who needs 90% of the rubbish they broadcast? Kill me before I need to watch talent shows on prime time.
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  • scooby088
    scooby088 Posts: 3,385 Forumite
    to the OP i would nail some gripper rod to the top of the door, anyone trying to get into you property will have a rude awakening..
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 23 October 2010 at 6:06PM
    kwaks wrote: »
    You sure?

    Have you read what I posted above?

    IF you have a device installed which is capable of recieving these signals then you DO require a licence by law.

    Now I don't want to open a new revenue stream for them, however people should be aware of what the law actually states just in case they fall foul of it.

    This is not correct. There are two sections of the Telecommunications Act and both have to be fulfilled for an offense to have taken place.

    TV receiving equipment is licencable, but a licence is only required if it is being used. The Act then defines the term Use as watching or recording live TV programmes.

    You do not need to have a TV licence just to own TV receiving equipment. You do need a licence to watch or record live TV.
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  • Glitzkiss
    Glitzkiss Posts: 5,326 Forumite
    I cancelled my licence a year ago and have yet to regret it. After several letters and a visit by an agent (I was out) I told Capita I was not using my tv to watch live broadcasts and they left me in peace. This morning I received a letter from them addressed to The Present Occupier. It's going back in the post marked as Not known at this address ;)

    My 10-year old CRT is unable to receive live broadcasts anyway now we've gone digital
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    kwaks wrote: »
    Whitehorse is correct.

    TVL impart the information that you require a licence to watch live broadcasts. This is their interpretation of the law as it stands and what most people believe is the "state of play".

    However, its not that cut and dried. Prosecution is done through the communications act, which requires you to have a licence for equiptment installed which can receive a live broadcast. Not having an aerial plugged in is not a defence, as installed can simply mean plugged in. The only way to be 100% sure of complience and not being convicted is if the tuner is disabled. No viewing required, the potential to view is enough.

    TVL tend to stick to their guidlines with regards the need for the licence, however anyone in front of the court needs to know the difference, the court WILL convict on the law, regardless of how TVL interpret it.

    This is incorrect as but a moments search would show.

    Owing receiving equipment, installed or otherwise, does not mean a TV licence is required.
  • GillM
    GillM Posts: 184 Forumite
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    Can I ask a dumb question? I have a couple of TVs in my house and I also have a current colour licence but the comments above about watching live broadcasts has made me curious. Like many people I watch TV via a PVR. I do watch some live TV but actually, the bulk of my viewing tends to be what I've recorded on the PVR and watched at a time that suits me. Are you saying that if I only watched recorded programmes at a time other than when first broadcast I wouldn't need a licence? Sorry if I've misunderstood what has been posted
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