Accused of Shill Bidding ...

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Hate this
My friend bid lol and shill bidding instantly arised

emby

Sorry that I keep rebumping this thread but there has been another development.
Ebay have removed the comment they initially left but now the buyer has responded to that negative saying "EBAY ARE INVESTIGATING YOUR SHILL BIDDING, BEWARE". I don't know what to do now, would Ebay remove that aswell? Does it fall under their feedback removal criteria? I know if i read that on someones feedback profile, whether they had otherwise excellent feedback or not i would be extremely wary of bidding on any of their items. I'm getting myself all worked up about it which i know isn't helpful, but it's so frustrating. Any help would be great guys thanks.

mobile48

The response is definitely against ebay feedback rules as you are not allowed to mention ebay investigations.

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/feedback-abuse-withdrawal.html

A simple complaint may only result in the comment being removed as before so take time to come up with a complaint that ensures the whole feedback is removed.

emby

After a phone call with Ebay, managed to get their follow up comment removed also, but again, not the negative score. This has been my first really terrible experience with a buyer, so hopefully i won't have to deal with anything like this again. The buyer seemed a tad nutty ...

amersall

If i did ebay and someone accused me of shill bidding, then i would have agreed to void the high bidders bid, just to prove i was not shill bidding. That would have solved the problem from the get go and no hassle.

emby

amersall wrote: »

If i did ebay and someone accused me of shill bidding, then i would have agreed to void the high bidders bid, just to prove i was not shill bidding. That would have solved the problem from the get go and no hassle.

How would that have proved you weren't shill bidding, if anything IMO it would have showed i had something to be guilty of. I've done nothing wrong, so there was no need for me to 'void the high bidders bid'.

sassy_one

In no way excusing you OP, Shill bidding is a serious criminal offence and recent media events confirm eBay along side the Police are taking the matter serious to hand with no excuses.

It costs not only the buyers but sellers too.

It maybe, in your case a genuine mistake but I will warn you firmly, if you have committed shill bidding don't expect a simple account suspended, they will report you to the Police as well and freeze your PayPal account along side this the Police will ask your bank to hold all funds pending a internal investigation.

I know this to be the course of action taken; and favored by eBay and the Police as on my last year working with a Solicitors firm in Criminal law we had a Police station 20 miles away contact us saying they had a male in Police custody whom they had executed a warranty on his address and in basic terms was suspected of shill bidding at 3 fake addresses and gaining a rough some of £200.000.
He was charged and stood trial, he was remanded in custody and received 6 years!

bluenoseam

OP has made it clear that she has a repeat customer who buys products of a theme off her, while it may be hideously niave i chose to believe she's telling the truth in this case, in which case i'd suspect that pending the investigation which should prove the fact it's not shill bidding and will then leave you open to request this persons account be banned. The negative marks while they can't be removed i'm sure that seeing two lots of "removed - learn more" will show that this is someone who clearly has a problem and anyone seeing said comments would also - if they are of sensible mind - contact the seller anyways.

sassy_one

bluenoseam wrote: »

OP has made it clear that she has a repeat customer who buys products of a theme off her, while it may be hideously niave i chose to believe she's telling the truth in this case, in which case i'd suspect that pending the investigation which should prove the fact it's not shill bidding and will then leave you open to request this persons account be banned. The negative marks while they can't be removed i'm sure that seeing two lots of "removed - learn more" will show that this is someone who clearly has a problem and anyone seeing said comments would also - if they are of sensible mind - contact the seller anyways.

May I just point out that I have not said the OP has shill bidded nor excused them of it, I merely stated a case for others to read and learn from rather than directly for the OP

Hintza

Accused not excused.

Your initial post reads that you are accusing them by not excusing them.