Figures reveal long-term jobless.

kabayiri

PasturesNew wrote: »

Who next ....

I think that as soon as you can communicate with computers using a voice interface the 'who next' will be a lot of 1st tier call centre people.

I've witnessed impressive demos in the past, as I've said before, and I find the computer voice I hear more intelligible than the average Indian operative I come across.

Just a matter of time....

The long term unemployed mentioned in this thread should be the first to be forced back to work, doing any sort of work , even menial.

It might sound harsh, and they wouldn't like it at first, but it will get them back into the work habit, and you never know....their appetite for more work may return.

mvengemvenge

"Nearly 200,000 people have been claiming Jobseeker's Allowance for three out of the past five years, according to "staggering" new figures.
The Government said the information revealed the extent of the problem of long-term unemployment across the UK it had inherited from Labour.
The official figures showed that 76,000 people had been out of work for five out of the past seven years and 54,000 for seven out of the last nine years."

These figures are the tip of the iceberg, as they refer only to JSA. If you added-in Incapacity (ESA), Income Support, etc, the figures are probably staggering.

lemonjelly

vivatifosi wrote: »

It is quite ironic that for the moment the robot version would cost far more than the employment cost of the real person shelf-stacker. So while higher skill jobs can easily be replaced the computerised function, true robot functionality (which seems to have been threatened since I grew up on a diet of the Jetsons) has yet to arrive.

With a lot of low skill jobs, the only reason they are done by people, is because they are still cheaper than a machine for doing said task.

The self service checkouts in supermarkets get me. Worse, the staff promoting them really don't seem to realise how they are effectively encouraging customers away from staff, and therefore ultimately talking themselves into unemployment!

careinthecommunity

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Should have worked harder at school then. Their Laziness is their fault, noone elses.

thanked you but hand slipped, i would retract that if possible.

ukcarper

I do find these threads quite revealing. Some people on here don’t seem to realise that the situation you are born into can have a big effect on your future. If they were born on a rough estate with parent who didn’t care what they did would they be where they are now.

There but for the grace of god.

vivatifosi

lemonjelly wrote: »

The self service checkouts in supermarkets get me. Worse, the staff promoting them really don't seem to realise how they are effectively encouraging customers away from staff, and therefore ultimately talking themselves into unemployment!

They know alright, they just aren't allowed to talk about it to customers.

Mr_Mumble

lemonjelly wrote: »

The self service checkouts in supermarkets get me. Worse, the staff promoting them really don't seem to realise how they are effectively encouraging customers away from staff, and therefore ultimately talking themselves into unemployment!

I find the costumers using self-service a little odd, most will be on far more than the checkout staff so the time-value of DIY makes no sense to me.

Since most checkout staff earn a little more than minimum wage, circa 6.50ph for a big supermarket chain depending on locale, what would happen to their jobs if the minimum wage was raised to £7.50 or indeed lowered to £3?

PS. I know you're a little left-wing lemonjelly that's why I'm querying - up it to £7.50 and the only till staff unaffected will be the highly productive ones in Aldi and Lidl who already earn that amount. I'd suggest the slow-mos in Asda/Tesco/Sainsbury/Morrisons would get fired and replaced by self-checkouts or made to be as productive as staff in Lidl who seem to do 50% more work for 20% more pay.

Shakethedisease

I find the costumers using self-service a little odd, most will be on far more than the checkout staff so the time-value of DIY makes no sense to me.

I'm a wee bit lost by this comment? I use self-service a lot, but only because the queues at the tills are so big and waiting to beep through 3 items is far easier and MUCH quicker at the self-service ones. Wouldn't do it for a trolley full though.

I'd suggest the slow-mos in Asda/Tesco/Sainsbury/Morrisons would get fired and replaced by self-checkouts or made to be as productive as staff in Lidl who seem to do 50% more work for 20% more pay.

Personally, I can't see exactly why they are paid 20% more. Im my experience the staff at Aldi's/Lidl tend to sling the whole lot through as fast as possible and that's it... complete disregard, disinterest and any sort of inclination to help.
At least the till's at the other stores have staff offering to help pack etc etc, and are keen to let you know if you've missed offer's and such-like, immediately dispatching someone to get you another steak pie, or whatever was on 2 for 1 that week.

'Productive' doesn't always just mean 'fast'.

Anyway, it's 'online shopping' that will be the killer for jobs in this area eventually. All that will be needed will be 'pickers' and delivery drivers.

chucky

ukcarper wrote: »

I do find these threads quite revealing. Some people on here don’t seem to realise that the situation you are born into can have a big effect on your future. If they were born on a rough estate with parent who didn’t care what they did would they be where they are now.

There but for the grace of god.

it's stranger still that some even believe that it's by the grace of the tory/labour (delete as you please) party that they are where they are now...

BleepinHell

ukcarper wrote: »

I do find these threads quite revealing. Some people on here don’t seem to realise that the situation you are born into can have a big effect on your future. If they were born on a rough estate with parent who didn’t care what they did would they be where they are now.

There but for the grace of god.

Exactly, some peeps on here kid themselves that they are where they are because of there own efforts.
Environment plays a huge part in ones success in life.
I often have young men[mostly white} who are practically illiterate applyng for jobs. They have no CV because they couldnt compile one. It saddens me that he education system has let them down so badly.