It’s such a bitter taste of defeat as I stare out my window each morning

dopester

It's a poor photoshop (not my work but from a long Ireland forum thread about her) but the theme still made me smile.



If it hasn't already been posted here, she's also looking for a flatmate / lodger.

http://www.daft.ie/searchsharing.daft?id=602374&search=1

mostlycheerful

Daviecol : ‘ “I’m prepared to take her story at face value.”

Good for you.

By the way if you'd care to read the entire thread I think you'll find your the only one.’

So if that’s the case then that would make me the only empiricist here working from the facts while everyone else are simply expressing their own emotional attitudes without reference to the facts as supplied.

Yes, sure, that is the case a lot, everywhere, all the time. It’s a universal ongoing problem. There’ll always be false accusation and mindless irrational bullying. Anyone publicising themselves and putting themselves into the firing line is a target for it and gets mud chucked at them. Goes with the territory when you’re a journalist and any figure in the public eye, whatever you say or do. People will often ignore the facts and instead express their own prejudices, agendas, frustration and hatred. Yes indeed. And I do it as well, pretty much everyone does at one time or another.

She’s young, pretty, intelligent and relatively rich and successful despite the current difficulty and failure she’s enduring so of course a lot of people are going to hate her and give her a kicking, whether she deserves it or not. She’s an easy target for people’s irritation. Me too. She’s asking for it publishing that stuff and parading herself in that way, so, sure enough she’s got it, right between the eyes. A good smack in the chops and kick in the crotch from dozens of directions. Hmm, great being a journalist, isn’t it, you get heaps of opprobrium. And I’m doing it now as well. Yeah, it’s just got to be done, hasn’t it.

Although I like her and feel for her she is nevertheless also a bit irritating. Have some of that you ungrateful spoilt rich kid and stop complaining! You got yourself into this mess so sort yourself out, if you’re up the junction then blag some more cash off your rich daddy or granddad, if they’re still willing to support you despite your, as you admit, hasty recklessness and ignoring advice. Or maybe they think you should stew in your own juices and learn your lesson the hard way on your own. And, yes, get yourself a lodger, as you’re trying to do - but not mentioning in your latest bleating article.

It’s obvious what psychology is at work here. And it’s not very intelligent. Rather basic and low level. And me too. Surprisingly unenlightened and thuggish for here at hugsville, more appropriate over at hatesville, the other place. Perhaps actually this is thugsville rather than hugsville. Unusually for this place this thread appears to have brought up a bit of irrational bile and random nastiness. And a bit from me as well, despite my attempt at being understanding and sympathetic. Yep. More fun on a public forum.

But, really, I should get a life. And do something sensible with my time rather than just aimlessly gobbing off here. It’s not achieving anything is it. Well, perhaps a bit of entertainment occasionally for some people. And I spose it’s stopping my knackered pea size brain finally completely atrophying.

daviecol

Mostlycheerful,

I enjoyed reading your post. I agree that anyone publishing their own view on anything will be in the firing line, which is why I accept that anything I post on here will annoy some whilst others may agree. We don't agree which is fine, lots of people don't.
You are also correct when you imply this thread had become 'thugsville' this is probably because we would all like to be able to go to or parents intead of the bank for a loan.
In short we are all jealous and are glad she has fallen flat on her face.

There now.........all out in the open........well I feel better any way

mostlycheerful

"I enjoyed reading your post."

Good, thanks, I'm glad, I try to be polite and entertaining and hopefully also interesting and useful - and illuminating subjects - even when I'm growling and chewing on a juicy bone chucked into the fray and trying to make some sense of it and correct and add to the understanding.

"We don't agree which is fine"

Really? Ok maybe you don't agree with me but I agree with you, despite your somewhat inaccurate interpretation of the data as presented, you nevertheless certainly got her vibe and attitude, even if you lobbed your mud without particularly getting the target accurately in your cross hairs - yes, you've put your finger on it, as have several other people here. Which I understand and acknowledge. I have simply expanded and examined the original data and the comments arising. And commented on the comments.

"well I feel better any way"

Good, nice, and that's as a good discussion board with good chirpy people should be.

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE

I'm all for HPI and helping our young FTB get that first crucial hold on the property ladder but even I'd balk at recommending purchasing a 500k rabbot hutch over looking a parcel courier depot.

satchmeister

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE wrote: »

I'm all for HPI and helping our young FTB get that first crucial hold on the property ladder but even I'd balk at recommending purchasing a 500k rabbot hutch over looking a parcel courier depot.

Why?? house prices double every seven years. What could possibly go wrong? If she'd paid 700k, in seven years she would have made 700k.

Loughton_Monkey

Who wants to volunteer?

Here's what you do. Put together an eloquent, concise, article, and send it to the Irish Independant for publication. Something along the lines of:

"I have such a bitter feeling of guilt"

"My wife and I have very recently had good times. My salary and bonus has gone up dramatically. The inheritance we received from Aunt Mary was expected to be £10,000, but turned out to be over £1,000,000. Why should I feel guilty?

Well we are selling up and retiring to Bali, but we remember the leaner times we had in 1991. We needed a house so desperately, and despite the house price crash, our £500K still didn't go as far as we liked. The couple in this house were desperate to sell. County Court Judgements. He'd lost his job. He'd already reduced from £775K down to £575K. I stuck it out. I badgered. And eventually he gave in, and sold it to us for £500K. It choked us up every time we drove past that council estate, to see this family in a tiny squalid house, unable even to afford to do the garden. No doubt racked with even bigger debts, no job, and no hope of ever buying a house again.

Well the house was snapped up for £2½ million a month ago. So embarrassing to have made so much out of the house in so little time. We never believed it could have been such a good investment. And all because we negotiated well. And chose the right area. And made sure we committed ourselves to what we could afford. Even at £575K the profits have exceeded our wildest expectations. And all we did for the profit is live in it and enjoy it. What a simple, and yet unfair way of making money.

Our dilemma? Well we desperately wanted to make a guesture and go round to the former owners and put a cheque for £75K plus interest into his hand. We really don't need the money. But the neighbours tell us they had to move again (non payment of rent) and had to do a moonlight flit. Nobody knows where they are. It was rumoured that the children are in care, and the parents are sticking it out at the Salvation Army. I don't know.

My wife and I are trying to do "the right thing". We hate to think of ourselves in the same way as these youngsters we see splashing tremendous sums of money, that they don't own, on ridiculous properties, with the hope only of making a 'quick buck.'

Hence our bitter guilt!

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE

Although I don't agree with her investment I have personally contacted this hardworking young lady to inform her of you ghouls ripping her to shreds. Sickening, the lot of you.

Loughton_Monkey

THE_GHOULS_PARADISE wrote: »

Although I don't agree with her investment I have personally contacted this hardworking young lady to inform her of you ghouls ripping her to shreds. Sickening, the lot of you.

Did you score?

neverdespairgirl

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

In some cases definately not. Birmingham City Council looked at buying some flats in the Jewelry Quarter.

http://www.birminghampost.net/news/west-midlands-news/2009/09/15/birmingham-s-jewellery-quarter-apartments-not-fit-for-homeless-65233-24697289/

Not good enough even for the homeless !!!!

then why on earth did they grant planning permission to build the things in the first place?