How do I get the CSA to look into Ex's CTC and WTC?

bdt1

I also agree that whilst the system is a sham, why would any parent request that another parent's CTC, WTC be considered in an assessment? I am a PWC and NRPP and would never take from another persons child, it is money for low income families to protect children - if this is the case, why don't they ask for Child Benefit to be used as assessable income also (for now this doesn't happen - but wouldn't surprise me at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

JulietAmber_2

And as for the unfairness of a discount in maintenance to take account of new children in new family -the money the ex loses is a drop in the ocean compared to the increase in payments she or he receives when the CSA take CTC into account. This more than makes up for it - at least 3 times over.

DX2

ACon wrote: »

He gets away with plenty, so just the thought of the look on his face when his reassessment, that he thinks will take his payments down, shows that he infact owes more, is utterly priceless!

Bitter doesn't even cover you, and you wonder how he has no contact with the kids if this is anything to go by.

Shermanator123

Thats a bit harsh she states the NRP has asked for a reassessment, everyones circumstances are unique and sometimes we are too quick to judge!!!

ACon

When you have to fight with someone to get them to take responsibility for their children, when even in court for access he refuses to see them more than a few measly hours when you offer whole weekends, when he then stops turning up on his set day, so my kids are sat on the doorstep crying because that trip they were promised by Daddy is not going to happen. When your kids are asking what happened to him, and why doesnt he want to see them anymore.. when he nearly makes his own children homeless, by writing to cancel housing benefit, obviously pretending to be me, and attempts to report me for benefit fraud..When he totally dumps them to have yet another new girlfriend and then a new baby, and then cuts off what pathetic amount he was paying totally, whilst trying to get the CSA to ask for less in the future, these payments stopped when I was getting back on track, family and work wise.....

....thats why theres a slight bit of joy knowing how peed off he will be seeing the new assessment HE asked for. Oh and btw CSA have told me its already in his assessment as HE declared he wanted payments reduced because of new baby. He said new baby, they assumed CTC.

So, for a good couple of years, and all these things, plus more, I'm sure you dont have all day , I have kept my tongue firmly bitten, never said a bad word to my kids, barely said a bad word to him. Everythings gone through official channels, and he is laughing as he's forever getting away with his "responsibilites". He can laugh all he wants, I have these fantastic kids that he has chosen not to have a part in. Bitter I am not, look what I have. I am blessed, but I'll be darned if hes gonna get away scott free.
So when the CSA sort this mess out once again, and with my arrears mounting, I will treat my kids to a lovely family day out courtesy of ArseWipe! And no, I will not feel guilty for what small amount gets taken off the childs CTC, Im aware of their earnings, and its plenty more than what comes into this household. They will be fine. I feel sorry for the mother, as one day she'll see what a waste of a body her fella is, if he can do this to his first two children, he can do it again.

JulietAmber_2

How are you aware of their earnings? It may not always be more than your household - people often struggle with things that they don't like to shout about, like debt or redundancy.
I'm sorry for you and I feel for your children. He should be ashamed of himself for neglecting his children - every child deserves the love of both parents.
I disagree with your last sentence - I hope your ex has mended his ways and is in love with his new partner. Hopefully his new child won't suffer like yours have and he's a good dad, I wouldn't want any child to suffer.
At the end of the day, he has to live with his conscience and you are blessed to have beautiful children. Enjoy life - you only get one shot at it x

dazzadub

his partner may make the claim for them as a couple. based on her earnings, ctc isnt normally taken into account and cb isnt either

csa dont take any money your partner has into account.

kelloggs36

Ctc is ALWAYS considered to be income of the NRP it is only WTC that is looked at and not always used.

JulietAmber_2

What Kelloggs says is right (I think I've studied more for our CSA case then I did for my degree!) WTC is disregarded if NRPP earns more than NRP, 50% if the same and 100% if NRP earns more. All of the CTC is taken into account, but not child benefit if it is CSA2.

ACon

After a very amusing phonecall from my case worker in the CSA, who deals with myself and the Ex personally, Ive been informed he stopped his payments so he could go on holiday abroad with his new little family. He did not inform them, someone else has, havent got a clue who, as they said they phoned his work to confirm it. Im aware of his hours, his wage, and that his partner was also working until Maternity Leave, Im also aware of their living circumstances, and the large amount of money thrown at him from his rich grandparents. (I do KNOW this man you know, I lived with him for 7 years)
Due to his behaviour I moved away to a much more expensive rent, as it was unfair for the children to see his abusive behaviour on the occasions where he'd turn up kicking off, and him stopping his payments recently put my rent in jeopardy. (He is able to contact the children through CAFCASS but chooses not to)
Anyway, the fella on the phone was actually laughing when he informed me that what Ex didnt realise when he said "Ive had a new baby, can you reassess my payments as I cant afford what Im paying now" he was actually saying "Im getting Tax Credits, please take a full assessment off them" The guy said, ohh he's going to get a shock when he sees the new assessments gone up not down.
The reason this guy was amused is cuz he deals with him, knows his attitude, his avoidance of payments, and general disregard for their welfare.
Had EX NOT asked for a reassessment I WOULDNT. Can I just make this clear. Im not out for all I can get, but Im out to protect my children and ensure they get whats due. His stopping pamyents put me in financial difficulty. I have £20 to my name right now, until I get paid (wages, not CSA as I dont know how long thatll be) next week. The same payments coming in weekly would have sufficed. This is all his own doing, and after all that has happened Im am not going to feel guilty for being slighlty amused at the outcome!