What cuts are you prepared to personally suffer to repay the deficit?

System

carolt wrote: »

Interesting, if not remotely surprising, that the usual suspects - Hamish, ISTL, joeskeppi etc - are all self-proclaimed hypocrites - they are more than happy to demand that others give up hard-earned cash to reduce the deficit, but are not prepared to offer to lose a single penny themselves.

Exactly as I was expecting.

Utterly hypocritical - especially as the first two are extrememely well-off and can easily afford to lose some cash through higher taxes.

Perhaps you should try reading. I'm happy to pay my share but NOT while money gets wasted on people like you who decided to spit a child out and demand money for it even though they don't need it.

That's fair.

carolt

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Perhaps you should try reading. I'm happy to pay my share but NOT while money gets wasted on people like you who decided to spit a child out and demand money for it even though they don't need it.

That's fair.

Right - you're happy to pay your share. But you've not told us how this share is going to be increased.

Or is it only OK for others to suffer?

I want to know exactly what extra you're going to give up to pay towards the deficit.

I also want a clear commitment that you are going to repay every penny of child benefit that your mother unjustly received when she 'spat you out'. (Nice phrase.)

Or is it only other people's children who are unjustified? Whilst you have some God-given right to exist?

Oh look - another hypocrite.

System

How can you be this stupid? Read my post.

Additionally, my mother wasn't well off, and I fully support child benefit for people with low household incomes.

I have also explained why it isn't in the slightest bit hypocritical in your other thread. If the government was giving me money I didn't need and I wasn't prepared to sacrifice it then you might have had a point (for once).

On the plus side, if you need to work some extra house to make up the difference, you can just sacrifice all the time you spend typing moronic drivel on this website, you'll earn more and it won't impact time with your kids

carolt

Seems little point earning more, as with a marginal tax rate that high, it is barely worth it.

You're right though, if I spent less time on here, I wouldn't need to read moronic drivel like the stuff you just wrote.

Basically, you are a hypocrite - you use public services all the time and could easily afford to contribute more in tax, given you have no dependents to support.

But you won't, because you're fundamentally selfish and want others to suffer on your behalf. And even more attractively, you want the people who are going to suffer on your behalf to be small children. Lovely character.

Heyman_2

carolt wrote: »

Interesting, if not remotely surprising, that the usual suspects - Hamish, ISTL, joeskeppi etc - are all self-proclaimed hypocrites - they are more than happy to demand that others give up hard-earned cash to reduce the deficit, but are not prepared to offer to lose a single penny themselves.

Exactly as I was expecting.

Utterly hypocritical - especially as the first two are extrememely well-off and can easily afford to lose some cash through higher taxes.

For god's sake Carol give it a rest - getting really sick of logging in to see you barfing all over the front page with this emotive drivel, being as condescending as possible to all and sundry and then blubbing when you manage to p**s Generali off who I would have thought is one of the hardest people on here to get on the wrong side of.

I'd sacrifice my child benefit if I knew it was going towards the greater good to answer your alterior-motived OP.

IveSeenTheLight

carolt wrote: »

Interesting, if not remotely surprising, that the usual suspects - Hamish, ISTL, joeskeppi etc - are all self-proclaimed hypocrites - they are more than happy to demand that others give up hard-earned cash to reduce the deficit, but are not prepared to offer to lose a single penny themselves.

Exactly as I was expecting.

Utterly hypocritical - especially as the first two are extrememely well-off and can easily afford to lose some cash through higher taxes.

Please show where I state I am a self proclaimed hypocrit?
Just because you have been hit with a barrage of criticism from some prominent members in this forum, don't try to pass it on to others. It's laughable really

I'm all for cutting the deficit, even paying towards it myself.
I don't live in the UK, don't take any benefits (even child benefits) but still pay taxes there.
I'm even happy to pay more taxes and take hardship to provide a better future for our childrens generations.

You on the otherhand are a self proclaimed high tax thereshold family and still want to scrounge benefits.

It beggers belief

Really2

We are prepared for my wife to lose her LG job.

We would rather she did not but perfectly understand that it is more than likely and the reasons why she will possibly lose it.

The public sector as it is, is unsustainable and a lot of public sector workers need to wake up to that.

Would they have been happy for the banks to be bailed out but left to do as they were and not cut back to repay the money?

Well guess who else has bailed out spending more than tax revenues for the last 7 years & has massive pension deficits?

Time for the public sector to realise it is now their turn to to cut back and stop relying on every tax payer to bail them out and support their current overblown activities.

mbga9pgf

carolt wrote: »

Seems little point earning more, as with a marginal tax rate that high, it is barely worth it.

You're right though, if I spent less time on here, I wouldn't need to read moronic drivel like the stuff you just wrote.

Basically, you are a hypocrite - you use public services all the time and could easily afford to contribute more in tax, given you have no dependents to support.

But you won't, because you're fundamentally selfish and want others to suffer on your behalf. And even more attractively, you want the people who are going to suffer on your behalf to be small children. Lovely character.

Tell you what then, cut the top rate and decrease benefits. That will create the sort of motivation this country needs to get back on its feet wouldnt you say?

Why should hard working individuals have to surrender cash through taxation to fund those who CHOOSE not to work?

mbga9pgf

carolt wrote: »

Do you actually receive child benefit, Heyman?

The 'I would sacrifice...' makes it sound as though you don't, or that would read 'I will be sacrificing...'

So...another hypocrite.

As for !!!!ing off Generali, I think you have that entirely the wrong way round. Frankly, after his performance yesterday, I have very little interest in anything he might have to say in future - he has entirely shot to pieces his credibility and previous claims to some sort of impartiality (very dubious anyway, given his obvious obsession with socialism as the root of all eveil ). No, the man's a fool, and a rude one to boot. Enough said.

Or perhaps you have just had it too easy for too long under Labour and need to accept that scrounging isnt condusive to the future wellbeing of the country?

What gives you the right to have children and expect other people to have to pay for their upbringing? Why have children if you cant afford to havethem? on a joint income of 70K, you CAN afford to have them, and dont need state handouts, which should purely be reserved for extreme cases.

Heyman_2

carolt wrote: »

Do you actually receive child benefit, Heyman?

The 'I would sacrifice...' makes it sound as though you don't, or that would read 'I will be sacrificing...'

So...another hypocrite.

As for !!!!ing off Generali, I think you have that entirely the wrong way round. Frankly, after his performance yesterday, I have very little interest in anything he might have to say in future - he has entirely shot to pieces his credibility and previous claims to some sort of impartiality (very dubious anyway, given his obvious obsession with socialism as the root of all eveil ). No, the man's a fool, and a rude one to boot. Enough said.

*sigh* yes Carol I do receive child benefit for my 3-month old daughter, which is more info than I'd normally give out on this kind of forum.

I'd suggest you adopt the same mentality if you don't want to unite pretty much everyone on the forum against you yet again.

You're beyond help though.