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What cuts are you prepared to personally suffer to repay the deficit?

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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    ERICS_MUM wrote: »
    Yes, it is. It's up to those people who waste my hard earned money that I pay in various taxes:

    1.poor management in public services
    2.benefit scroungers
    3.people who need healthy start, vitamins, fruit and veg coupons etc for their babies/children - don't have kids if you can't afford.
    4.People like the woman on telly last week who said going to work would give her "only" another £40 per week so it "isn't worth it".LAZY COW
    5.people who throw litter, paint grafitti, fly-tip, damage bus stops and phone boxes, all of which cost a fortune to sort out
    6.people who can't/won't behave in public (drink, drugs, abusive behaviour etc) which costs a fortune in terms of police time
    7.people who make hoax calls and waste paramedic and fire fighters time which costs money
    8.people who go to A&E when clearly they don't have either. THEN when they realise they've a long wait to be seen, they clear off - so much for needing to be seen urgently.
    9.people who are so determined to always have the latest model of mobile phone, Playstation, blue ray, HD TV, american fridge, new car, fancy holidays abroad, Tiffany bracelets, and "pay" for it with credit instead of with their own hard-earned cash
    10.people who get themselves in such a financial mess and then look for ways of not paying the money back - they say "surely someone else is to blame for my inability to manage my life"

    Right, once all the above get themselves in order and start making a positive contribution to this society, then I will be happy to increase my already sizeable contribution.

    So hhhmmmmm that.

    So in other words, it's always other people's fault.

    We're not 'all in this together'.

    It's a case of 'I'm alright, Jack'.

    Just so as we know. Do as I say, not as I do.

    Incidentally, I agree with every one of your points - but you're on the wrong thread for those - this was the thread for people to say what THEY were prepared to sacrifice.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »


    As for your child benefit, you've not said whether or not you will be among those actually losing it - your post would tend to suggest not.

    Do you like getting attacked personally?

    If you don't then stop making personal attacks on other people.

    Just because someone has a view on a benefit it has no bearing to whether they are claiming it or not.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Nope! Married 6 years!

    What a tolerant wife you have.

    I hope she hits you over the head with a andbag when you come up with stuff like that.

    Or do you save it for ladies whose handbags are out of reach, on the internet? ;)
  • Heyman_2
    Heyman_2 Posts: 1,819 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    No-one whose opinions I value is 'united against me'. In fact I had a number of PMs from people whose opinions I do respect supporting my stance.

    If you imagine that the opinions of a few of the usual suspects on this forum bother me in the slightest, you're wrong - if that was the case, do you not think I would have given up posting years ago?

    It does and has bothered you in the past - hence your creation of the 'Nice people' thread and not straying out of it much for a month or so - you're only human Carol, like the rest of us (mostly).
    carolt wrote: »
    I post stuff because I believe it to be right NOT popular - mse isn't a popularity contest, and frankly, it's not as though I know any of you in real life, is it? Plus most of those who thank rude posts about me are the same people posting under a multitude of different names - 8 versions of Hamish is hardly going to worry more than the original, whose opinions I long ago discounted anyway.

    That would be a fair point if every other post of yours wasn't rude or condescending - a lot of the time unprovoked!
    carolt wrote: »
    As for your child benefit, you've not said whether or not you will be among those actually losing it - your post would tend to suggest not.

    It's irrelevent either way.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    She gives as good as she gets, dont you worry!
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    Do you like getting attacked personally?

    If you don't then stop making personal attacks on other people.

    Just because someone has a view on a benefit it has no bearing to whether they are claiming it or not.

    Of course it does!

    If someone claims that others ought to be making sacrifices, it makes a very big difference indeed as to whether they themselves are also making a sacrifice.

    If they aren't then frankly they are being hypocritical.
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    If people choose to put pride before their family starving, that's up to hem.

    I don't recall that I've ever recommended families take that course of action, though.

    And is that is what is going to happen in your case?
  • Alan_Cross
    Alan_Cross Posts: 1,226 Forumite
    edited 5 October 2010 at 8:33AM
    Really2 wrote: »
    Some people have pride and don't carol & can you prove what a person will get in benefits or are you guessing, the underlined bit shows how you think.

    I can't believe you write that after starting so many benefit bashing threads before.


    Yes, there are quite a few of these stemming from the Murdoch-poisoned brains of the greedy tendency on MSE.

    To redress the balance of this, if only fractionally, I'll answer the OP by saying that I personally will be very happy to accept the 'cut' of outlawing the City bonus culture...

    ... and, oh yes, I'll even pay my share of whatever extra funding is necessary to beef up the tax evasion inspectorate - providing first they start examining the tax records of all those who deliberately opt out of state provision in health and education.

    That should throw up more than a few interesting situations.

    This post was brought to you by the Anti Selfishness League...
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    Interesting, if not remotely surprising, that the usual suspects - Hamish, ISTL, joeskeppi etc - are all self-proclaimed hypocrites - they are more than happy to demand that others give up hard-earned cash to reduce the deficit, but are not prepared to offer to lose a single penny themselves.

    Exactly as I was expecting.

    Utterly hypocritical - especially as the first two are extrememely well-off and can easily afford to lose some cash through higher taxes.

    Talking of "utterly hypocritical", remind me again who was very loudly celebrating the cuts to housing benefits for those on genuinely low income just last month.

    But is now up in arms at the thought of high earners losing child benefits.

    So carol is all in favour of benefits cuts..... but only when she might stand to benefit from them.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Heyman wrote: »
    It does and has bothered you in the past - hence your creation of the 'Nice people' thread and not straying out of it much for a month or so - you're only human Carol, like the rest of us (mostly).

    That's because I like Nice People - rather than out of some sort of terror that Hamish might be mean. :p I'm human, but frankly not that lacking in self-confidence.

    That would be a fair point if every other post of yours wasn't rude or condescending - a lot of the time unprovoked!

    I'd disagree with the unprovoked. Not the rude or condescending, though - I'd admit I don't suffer fools gladly, I'm afraid.

    It's irrelevent either way.

    Oh no it isn't - see recent reply to Olly.
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