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Retrieving a password

Years ago I used to keep diary entries on my pc - not online though. We had one computer between 3 of us so I password protected the documents in case of prying eyes. What password I used though God only knows because I've tried everything I can think of and nothing opens them! :o

I'm not unduly worried because I know I printed out a good chunk of the entries to paste into books but had a feeling I didn't get them all finished. Would there be any way of retrieving it or overriding it?
Marg :)
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  • tronator
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    Years ago I used to keep diary entries on my pc - not online though. We had one computer between 3 of us so I password protected the documents in case of prying eyes. What password I used though God only knows because I've tried everything I can think of and nothing opens them! :o

    I'm not unduly worried because I know I printed out a good chunk of the entries to paste into books but had a feeling I didn't get them all finished. Would there be any way of retrieving it or overriding it?

    Firstly you should tell us what software you're using. And secondly if it would be possible to recover the password, why bothering to password protect it in first place? Everybody could recover the password if he gets hold of the file...
  • googler
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    If they're word documents, then open them with Notepad or another plain text editor.
  • googler wrote: »
    If they're word documents, then open them with Notepad or another plain text editor.

    Sorry they were WORD docs - tried opening in Notepad but it just comes out in gobbledegook!
    Marg :)
  • RobTang
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    tronator wrote: »
    Firstly you should tell us what software you're using. And secondly if it would be possible to recover the password, why bothering to password protect it in first place? Everybody could recover the password if he gets hold of the file...

    But not everyone can be botherd to, its just to stop casual snooping really, people tend to take a peek at "intresting" looking documents without any motive whatsoever (apart from natural curiosity)

    Even properly encrypted data isn't 100% hack proof (althuogh difficult) but it doesn't mean forsake security.


    Although there is probably a better way, Id be surprised if there isn't a program that can brute force crack word documents, although it mght take some time.
  • patman99
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    If you google 'ms word password removal tool' you will find a big list of programs for doing just that.
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  • googler
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    Sorry they were WORD docs - tried opening in Notepad but it just comes out in gobbledegook!

    Good, you can open them.

    The text of your Word Docs WILL be in there somewhere, and not at the beginning of the file - you just have to find it. If you know a word or phrase that will be in the doc, use 'Find' within Notepad. Once you find the text, you can copy/paste it to another doc.

    As a pointer, create a new word doc, containing only the text 'Mary had a Little Lamb' or similar. Save it, open with Notepad, and search for your phrase. Repeat the search with the docs under discussion here.

    The gobbledegook is all the 'control' data that Word stores about your doc - fonts, styles, page breaks, headers, footers, revision info, previous changes so you can 'undo' them, etc. It's interesting to type a shoort phrase such as the above into Notepad and Word, save each, then compare the resulting file sizes. Then you see how bloated the Word docs are.
  • Browntoa
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  • googler wrote: »
    Good, you can open them.

    The text of your Word Docs WILL be in there somewhere, and not at the beginning of the file - you just have to find it. If you know a word or phrase that will be in the doc, use 'Find' within Notepad. Once you find the text, you can copy/paste it to another doc.

    As a pointer, create a new word doc, containing only the text 'Mary had a Little Lamb' or similar. Save it, open with Notepad, and search for your phrase. Repeat the search with the docs under discussion here.

    The gobbledegook is all the 'control' data that Word stores about your doc - fonts, styles, page breaks, headers, footers, revision info, previous changes so you can 'undo' them, etc. It's interesting to type a shoort phrase such as the above into Notepad and Word, save each, then compare the resulting file sizes. Then you see how bloated the Word docs are.

    Well that certainly makes sense but this is what I'm faced with when I open an entry in Notepad:

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    Marg :)
  • patman99 wrote: »
    If you google 'ms word password removal tool' you will find a big list of programs for doing just that.

    Thanks Patman I'll try that. :beer:
    Marg :)
  • RobTang wrote: »
    But not everyone can be botherd to, its just to stop casual snooping really, people tend to take a peek at "intresting" looking documents without any motive whatsoever (apart from natural curiosity)

    Even properly encrypted data isn't 100% hack proof (althuogh difficult) but it doesn't mean forsake security.


    Although there is probably a better way, Id be surprised if there isn't a program that can brute force crack word documents, although it mght take some time.

    Exactly what I thought and why I decided to ask. I've seen so many problems like this solved on here so thought it was worth a try!
    Marg :)
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