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Bought a Duff Primera T Spec, Advice Pls?
berkshiregaz
Posts: 61 Forumite
in Motoring
Hi
We finally managed to get enough money together to replace my old Banger!
We visited a local second hand car dealership, initally to buy a car for £1k leaving us some money in the bank!
Finding that car to be a bit "dodgy" we spent all our money on a 52 plate Primera T Spec with 64k on the clock.
The very first day we took delivery 7/9 it started raining and I discovered that none of the interior fans worked, therefore the screen didnt demist and I had to carry a tea towel around when driving!
Eventually after 2 days without the car, the dealers mechanic fixed this problem and the fans worked!:T
Two days later on the way to school drop off there was a total loss of power and all sorts of warnings flashed up on the screen.
I called the AA and they said that the engine management system was saying that there was a problem with the cam sensor.
I looked through the history and the cam sensor was only replaced 12m earlier because of bad running.
The AA patrol cleaned the sensor and reset the warning lights.
That night I drove less than 3 miles and the same thing happened again, I limped home and rang the company who ran the 6month warranty!
They arranged for me to take it into a garage, who scanned the EMS and said it needed a new cam sensor which the warranty paid for.
The car was in the garage for 3 days, I went to pick it up today and was told that they had fit the new sensor which made the car run even worse!!!!:(
After a while they put the old one back on and called me telling me it was ready, In the meantime I did some research on the net and discovered that sometimes Primeras can do this if the cam chain has stretched a little bit, the computer thinks there is an error because the chain is a little longer than expected!!:o
On driving the car back home although it didnt fail again I could hear and feel a slight misfiring!!
My wife has called the dealer and said that we dont believe the car is fit for the purpose and we wont pay the £300-400 needed to strip the engine and see if the cam chain has stretched. (the garage said the warranty wont pay for this as its diagnostic work, which isnt covered)
We basically want a refund of the 3495 we paid for the car, trading standards tell us to write and reject the car!
Does anyone have advice as to what we should write and what is likely to happen from here???:(
Many Thanks for any advice!
We finally managed to get enough money together to replace my old Banger!
We visited a local second hand car dealership, initally to buy a car for £1k leaving us some money in the bank!
Finding that car to be a bit "dodgy" we spent all our money on a 52 plate Primera T Spec with 64k on the clock.
The very first day we took delivery 7/9 it started raining and I discovered that none of the interior fans worked, therefore the screen didnt demist and I had to carry a tea towel around when driving!
Eventually after 2 days without the car, the dealers mechanic fixed this problem and the fans worked!:T
Two days later on the way to school drop off there was a total loss of power and all sorts of warnings flashed up on the screen.
I called the AA and they said that the engine management system was saying that there was a problem with the cam sensor.
I looked through the history and the cam sensor was only replaced 12m earlier because of bad running.
The AA patrol cleaned the sensor and reset the warning lights.
That night I drove less than 3 miles and the same thing happened again, I limped home and rang the company who ran the 6month warranty!
They arranged for me to take it into a garage, who scanned the EMS and said it needed a new cam sensor which the warranty paid for.
The car was in the garage for 3 days, I went to pick it up today and was told that they had fit the new sensor which made the car run even worse!!!!:(
After a while they put the old one back on and called me telling me it was ready, In the meantime I did some research on the net and discovered that sometimes Primeras can do this if the cam chain has stretched a little bit, the computer thinks there is an error because the chain is a little longer than expected!!:o
On driving the car back home although it didnt fail again I could hear and feel a slight misfiring!!
My wife has called the dealer and said that we dont believe the car is fit for the purpose and we wont pay the £300-400 needed to strip the engine and see if the cam chain has stretched. (the garage said the warranty wont pay for this as its diagnostic work, which isnt covered)
We basically want a refund of the 3495 we paid for the car, trading standards tell us to write and reject the car!
Does anyone have advice as to what we should write and what is likely to happen from here???:(
Many Thanks for any advice!
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Forgot to say, that when my wife called the dealer, he was surprised thatt the warranty company wouldnt pay to find out what was wrong and said he would call us back after he had spoken to them, But Hasn't!0
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First of all - take the car to them and leave it there, informing them verbally that you would like to reject the car as it is unfit for purpose.
Then write a letter FAO the manager of the dealership saying that due to the catalogue of problems (describe them) that you consider the car to be unfit for purpose and that the dealer has an obligation under the Sale of Goods Act to sell goods that are of a satisfactory quality and are fit for purpose. Since the attempts to repair the car have failed, the car remains unfit for purpose and you therefore want a full refund of the amount paid for the car.
Most warranty companies don't pay for diagnostics unfortunately0 -
£3495 for a 52 plate? I paid £1000 less for a 04 plate mondeo.Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...0
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Shame, these are usually one of the most bullet proof things on the road. My current car is an (admitedly P11) Primera which has done 130k with no hassle at all, on a little 1.6 petrol engine.
Chain stretch would explain why the phase sensor is picking up problems, as it will be causing a disparity between the crank and cam sensors, leaving the ECU very confused and "LIMP'ing"
What the answer is in your case though, I don't know. You've spent a lot of money on that car though.
Regards,
Andy0 -
forgotmyname wrote: »£3495 for a 52 plate? I paid £1000 less for a 04 plate mondeo.
Bought an 06 diesel estate Mondeo 18 month ago for £300 less, doesnt help the OP though.“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires0 -
Don't mess about with third party warranty companies, the problem is with the car that the dealer has just sold to you. As Kilty says above, take it back. They have got a very strong price off of you, their gamble failed and they wont be messing about fixing it, it will go back to auction and you should get all of your money back.0
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Sadly the new shape Primera was a bit of a pig as far as reliability goes, I looked at one, a T Spec saloon 6 months after the new shape came out, it was on an 02 plate.
I liked the way it drove but noticed that on a car with 5k on the clock the interior door handle was showing signs of excessive wear, so I decided not to bother.
They are sadly not as reliable as the older ones, they look good but are not as good as the old ones.
The old ones, though boring to look at where nigh on unbreakable.0 -
The old ones are a bit of a "weapon" on the road too, with twin wishbone front suspension, and multi-link on the back..... Outhandle many a supposedly "hot hatch."Sadly the new shape Primera was a bit of a pig as far as reliability goes, I looked at one, a T Spec saloon 6 months after the new shape came out, it was on an 02 plate.
I liked the way it drove but noticed that on a car with 5k on the clock the interior door handle was showing signs of excessive wear, so I decided not to bother.
They are sadly not as reliable as the older ones, they look good but are not as good as the old ones.
The old ones, though boring to look at where nigh on unbreakable.
Very boring to look at though, I totally agree.
Regards,
Andy0 -
Sadly the new shape Primera was a bit of a pig as far as reliability goes, I looked at one, a T Spec saloon 6 months after the new shape came out, it was on an 02 plate.
The old ones, though boring to look at where nigh on unbreakable.
No no no they weren't. They are Japanese, the land of perfect cars, and this is one from before Renault took over, ask Inactive, he rates them
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:A:AI like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.
Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)
Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed0 -
I must admit it does seem strange that Nissan borrowed the mechanical parts from Renault then did the exterior design themselves, surely they would have been better letting Renault do the design and use Nissan mechanics.
Remember the collaboration that produced a Datsun Cherry with an Alfa engine, not forgetting the Triumph Acclaim...................0
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