Buying a new superking mattress help?

Tim_Deegan

andrew-b wrote: »

I'd check the size of your existing bed frame and mattress. Ikea sizes often vary from the standard UK sizes so measure width and length carefully as you might need a new base too . If you went for a divan base instead you could go for pocket sprung. Though i think you need to double your budget to get something decent that's going to last.

Superking size is actually the same in both UK and continental sizes. And for anyone else who has an Ikea bed, many independent bed manufacturers will also supply continental sizes (they have to because Ikea mattresses are so bad that many people want UK made mattresses in continental sizes).

Larnsky

We had a superking matress from Ikea and the split in the middle was annoying, we purchased a matress topper from Argos and it has transformed it completely!

Tim_Deegan

Larnsky wrote: »

We had a superking matress from Ikea and the split in the middle was annoying, we purchased a matress topper from Argos and it has transformed it completely!

Which backs up my case for not buying from Ikea in the first place.

Mob-Mat-Man

I find it laughable that someone suggested a cage sprung mattress is better than a pocket sprung mattress - particularly a 1000 pocket sprung mattress. I admit that for this price some compromises may of had to be made such as detailing and fabric etc, but the fundamental spring system is the same as nearly all [1000] pocket sprung mattresses.

Firstly, I would like to know what constitutes a 'high end' cage sprung mattress that would be deemed 'better' than a 1000 pocket sprung mattress. All mattreses with a cage sprung interior are cheap mattresses and no matter how they are dressed up or whatever name they are given, will always be a cheap mattress.

Pocket springs are the best you can buy and they should be the spring support of choice - I have never heard a valid argument that says otherwise . A starter cheaper end PS model will have about 800 individual pocket springs (KS) whereas all cage sprung mattress will have about 350 (KS) connected springs.

If the poster found a 1000 pocket sprung Superking mattress for just over £300 why on earth would they want a cage sprung mattress for the same price or even more? Particularly if this is within their budget.

John.

Tim_Deegan

Mob-Mat-Man wrote: »

I find it laughable that someone suggested a cage sprung mattress is better than a pocket sprung mattress - particularly a 1000 pocket sprung mattress. I admit that for this price some compromises may of had to be made such as detailing and fabric etc, but the fundamental spring system is the same as nearly all [1000] pocket sprung mattresses.

Firstly, I would like to know what constitutes a 'high end' cage sprung mattress that would be deemed 'better' than a 1000 pocket sprung mattress. All mattreses with a cage sprung interior are cheap mattresses and no matter how they are dressed up or whatever name they are given, will always be a cheap mattress.

Pocket springs are the best you can buy and they should be the spring support of choice - I have never heard a valid argument that says otherwise . A starter cheaper end PS model will have about 800 individual pocket springs (KS) whereas all cage sprung mattress will have about 350 (KS) connected springs.

If the poster found a 1000 pocket sprung Superking mattress for just over £300 why on earth would they want a cage sprung mattress for the same price or even more? Particularly if this is within their budget.

John.

You should know as well as I do that many entry level pocket sprung mattresses have very little quilting. So although pocket springs give better support, there is no point in having a pocket sprung mattress that is uncomfortable because you can feel the springs, when you can have a top of the range open coil sprung mattress that although not being as supportive, at least you will be able to sleep on it, rather than having uncomfortable sleepless nights. After all I'm talking about Bonnell open coil springs, and not continuous spring systems. Or are you advising people to go for pocket sprung mattresses, however low the quality is?

minnie123

The sleepeezee says it's suitable to use on a slatted base. Is the Rennes one also ok to use on a slatted base?

Are Ikea mattresses really that bad I had mine for 7 years and was perfectly happy with it except for the fact it zipped in the middle and the one I had was only £250. I always felt comfy but now the springs are starting to poke through I thought I may try and get a slightly better one if I can that doesn't zip in the middle.

Mob-Mat-Man

There are only two kinds of slats - sprung or fixed. There is no hard data available that says one is better than the other. You only have the manufacturers 'advice' that says that a particular model is more suitable for a particular base and being their opinion I imagine another reason to add another mattress to an already swamped market. And following on from that you will then have a retailers opinion on what is better based on their judgement.

My take is: Most mattresses are suitable for any kind of base (few exceptions). A well made pocket sprung mattress is entirely suitable, particularly if it is double sided - there will be sufficient wadding on each side to stop the pocket springs potentially squidging through the gaps.

There is too much fallacy around about mattresses that are or arn't suitable for slatted bases, or bedsteads or divans. So how did these stories come about?

It all seems to have started with Silentnight. Retailers were plugging the benefits of their Miracoil Spring system with an explanation that as the springs run North to South there was no way that the springs could fall through the gaps which run East to West. Quite a logical and well thought out explanation and really no room for disagreement. Unless ..

Did we ever have a problem with springs falling through the slats prior to SN Miracoil ? I can't ever remember it being a problem. And I cant think of one instance since where I have ever heard this to happen.

John

Tim_Deegan

minnie123 wrote: »

The sleepeezee says it's suitable to use on a slatted base. Is the Rennes one also ok to use on a slatted base?

Are Ikea mattresses really that bad I had mine for 7 years and was perfectly happy with it except for the fact it zipped in the middle and the one I had was only £250. I always felt comfy but now the springs are starting to poke through I thought I may try and get a slightly better one if I can that doesn't zip in the middle.

It's quite simple really. Pocket springs all work independently (unlike open coil springs that are all connected and support each other), which is how they contour to your body. So this means that springs that are over the gaps between the slats aren't supported properly. And even worse, springs that are only partly over a slat can become twisted. So really with most pocket sprung mattresses you don't want gaps of more than about 1".

You will find that many retailers (and some manufacturers) will tell you that you can use their mattresses on slatted bases because they want you to buy more expensive mattresses. Well you can use them, but they won't last as long. This is much the same as retailers and manufacturers promoting non turn mattresses, which also won't last as long.

There are some exceptions to the rule, like some non turn mattresses that have a very rigid layer in the bottom. And two sided pocket sprung and memory foam (or latex foam) mattresses can be used on slats with gaps of up to 3", as the foam on the bottom spreads the weight out over the slats.

However there is a way around the problem if you have a slatted base, and want to use a pocket sprung mattress on it. All you have to do is lay a sheet of pegboard or hardboard over the slats to stop the springs pushing between them.

It is irresponsible for anyone to tell you that you can use any pocket sprung mattress on any base.