Looking for a rental agreement template

tbs624

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theartfullodger

MF2015 wrote: »

Thanks guys but I', not interested in joining any of the landlord clubs. All I'm looking for is a basic agreement, I have an honest tenant, that I have known personaly for about 10 years.

If it all goes pear shaped then no agreement would help, ''profesionaly'' drawn up, or not, it would still end up in court action with the law been the law.

Boy, have you a lot to learn... however, it's a free country & I'm sure the legal profession will be pleased with the fees they'll make out of you...

For your own sake & that of your tenants...
a) Get trained up as a Landlord & start to realise what you don't know.. Both RLA & NLA run good courses...
b) RLA & NLA are worth joining...
c) Take the advice here - use the proper, checked, reviewed & up-to-date agreements..
d) make sure you've got all the other things in place - agreement of lender, "proper" Landlord insurance, gas safety certificate, decent inventory, protected deposit, rent income advised to HMRC (if someone else tells them first they may be "suspicious") etc. etc. etc..

Or, ignore all the posts above & well probably read about you in the papers soon...

Oh, and PS Only start renting if you can cope with the "Tenant from hell" (yes, I know, tenant is a wonderful person, aye, right...) & have the financial & emotional reserves to handle, say, 7 months of no rent whilst still paying mortgage & legal bills & then getting 'phone call 10:30 pm Saturday night saying toilets leaking and realising you have to fix it or the judge will decide you are harassing your innocent tenant....

Cheers!

Artful

PPS Welcome to the fun world of property letting (I've done it for 10 years...)

N79

tbs624 wrote: »

Funny thing is that here we are recommending the OP to use RLA/NLA whilst laughing at a previous RLA agreement's clauses.

Would rather use Landlordlaw or similar.

Since I have never seen any of those tenancy agreements I would never recommend them but I suspect that all of them will be better than nothing or an out of date agreement found lurking in the corners of the internet.

tbs624

N79 wrote: »

Since I have never seen any of those tenancy agreements I would never recommend them but I suspect that all of them will be better than nothing or an out of date agreement found lurking in the corners of the internet.

Think you missed the point N79 . I wouldn't use a random tenancy agreement found on the net nor suggest that anyone else should . However, that example of a previous RLA one doesn't exactly fill one with confidence, does it?

The national LL associations do provide much support and, as Artful says, useful courses but it seems that they perhaps don't always get it right. Wasn't it also the RLA,who gave their members some less than correct advice about how to avoid the tenancy deposit regs?

For those who do like to go via the LL associations there is also the Guild of Residential LLs offering.

N79

tbs624 wrote: »

Think you missed the point N79 . I wouldn't use a random tenancy agreement found on the net nor suggest that anyone else should . However, that example of a previous RLA one doesn't exactly fill one with confidence, does it?

No not really. I don't think I missed your point - I was just saying that they are probably better than random internet tenancies. At least there is a body you can hold responsible if they turn out to be junk.

The national LL associations do provide much support and, as Artful says, useful courses but it seems that they perhaps don't always get it right. Wasn't it also the RLA,who gave their members some less than correct advice about how to avoid the tenancy deposit regs?

It was this episode that lowered the RLA a long way in my eyes. Blatantly dodging the spirit of the law (and also, due to incompetence, breaching the letter of the law) is simply not the action of a reputable "professional" body.

theartfullodger

For what it's worth I've never seen a tenancy agreement without a questionable clause or a straightforward error (Engerland or Scotland): (Including the one's I've re-written!!!!).

However, the better, more up-to-date, ones are not bad and if a clause is invalid (eg Tenant may only give notice 8 months in advance wearing a top hat) then the rest of the tenancy stands...

We do our best, try to get it right, and learn from our own & other's mistakes... And we keep on learning!!! But to do that you have to realise that you don't know it all....and the Government & the Courts keep moving the goals-posts..

Whilst I'm in the mood as a pompous pontificator, the other thing to remember in Landlord/Tenant matters is, try & be civilised, tolerant & friendly... until you realise the time has come to behave t'otherwise...

Cheers!

Artful

MF2015

Though some of you may think I am, and I'll quote "an unprofessional landlord", I do have experience of been a landlord already. I’ve also had enough of doing the job of useless letting agents so I’m taking the task on myself.

I will be issuing a revised tenancy agreement based on the one in question with my own clauses before they move in.

The deposit will be held in a scheme and I'm, well aware of 10:30pm phonecalls.

Thanks for the advice.

GillsMan7

You got the EPC and gas safety certificate sorted out as well?

MF2015

GillsMan7 wrote: »

You got the EPC and gas safety certificate sorted out as well?

Yes, following a full rewire, full central heating system install along with new double glazing, back to brickwork in every room, new bathroom, kitchen, carpets and new floors. Basicaly its a newbuild with an old outer skin. Should be sorted for a few years I think.

Emmzi

MF2015 wrote: »

Thanks but I didn't ask for advice,.

MF2015, this is the internet. Internet, MF2015. I don't think you've met?