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Does a politicians private life matter?
michaels
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I'm a bit wary of posting this but I think it matters.
This BBC piece notes that Ed Milliband is not named on his child's birth certificate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11433642). I have no problems with his having a child without being married but I do feel that taking responsibility for one's children is important and question why he is not on the birth certificate.
Any thoughts?
Edit: I haven't voted yet - my initial answer is no it shouldn't matter but may be I am showing my age that his not being named on the birth certificate seems strange - can the mother refuse to allow the father to be named even if he wants to be?
Edit: Thanks LemonJ for answering the last point but the issue of whether a father should have the right to be acknowledged on the birth certificate is probably for a different discussion.
This BBC piece notes that Ed Milliband is not named on his child's birth certificate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11433642). I have no problems with his having a child without being married but I do feel that taking responsibility for one's children is important and question why he is not on the birth certificate.
Any thoughts?
Edit: I haven't voted yet - my initial answer is no it shouldn't matter but may be I am showing my age that his not being named on the birth certificate seems strange - can the mother refuse to allow the father to be named even if he wants to be?
Edit: Thanks LemonJ for answering the last point but the issue of whether a father should have the right to be acknowledged on the birth certificate is probably for a different discussion.
I think....
Should you consider a politicains private life when deciding whetether to trust them 47 votes
No - A politician's private life should not be considered when making a voting decision
21%
10 votes
Yes - when voting it is not just policies but also character that counts
78%
37 votes
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Much to intrusive? unless of course he is thinking of making it a hanging offence and claiming parliamentary privilege for himself
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
I think it has to matter to some extent. If a politician had a private life like some of the salubrious posters on here, I would never vote for them.In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:0
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Both really, IMO it only matters if there is hipocrisy and/or deceit involved. eg if he'd said "being named as a father on the birth certificate is essential to family life" then it would matter if he wasn't named, otherwise its irrelevant.
btw are there any legal implications of not being named the father on the birth certificate?0 -
politicians' private lives are important, but not in this kind of granular detail. it's a bit of a non issue really.
in terms of higher level stuff - if a politician doesn't understand that going into politics means their private life will be scrutinised by the media and that therefore they have to behave themselves, then they are too stupid to be a politician.0 -
Yes....to a degree. I don't care what people eat for supper (unless they are eating unethically while campaigning for other), what they do in bed, where they went to school or if their second cousin is a reprobate. I do care that they are reasonably honest (I don't expect a saint, and frankly would feel ill served by one) and sincere.0
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If it's his then he should be man enough to acknowledge the child. I wonder what he will do when the second one arrives?
Just read:
Mr Miliband is not named on the birth certificate of the couple's first child - something he admitted he was "really embarrassed" about - but he said he would make sure not to miss out a second time. I am not sure but I think that he can have the first certificate amended>
AMDDebt Free!!!0 -
!!!!!!!! I clicked yes instead of no. All that matters is that he represents his constituents as per his job description. Obviously in practice if he gets jiggy with sheep or indulges in other dubious activity you'd question his morals and ability to do the job so you'd be less likely to vote for them, but once they're in all I care about is if they do the job.0
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I couldn't care less, as long as it doesn't impact their job of course.0
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Not really.
Though when they are buying their !!!!!! on the tax payer tab, or claiming their private family home through the taxpayer it does matter
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I'm a bit wary of posting this but I think it matters.
This BBC piece notes that Ed Milliband is not named on his child's birth certificate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11433642). I have no problems with his having a child without being married but I do feel that taking responsibility for one's children is important and question why he is not on the birth certificate.
Any thoughts?
Edit: I haven't voted yet - my initial answer is no it shouldn't matter but may be I am showing my age that his not being named on the birth certificate seems strange - can the mother refuse to allow the father to be named even if he wants to be?
An unmarried mother automatically has full parental responsibility & accordingly full parental rights. Effectively an unmarried mother can choose whether to take the father along to register the birth, or not.
Since December 1 2003, an unmarried father named on the birth certificate also has these parental rights. Prior to this date, a male named on a birth certificate meant nothing in law.
Perhaps the mother wished to retain sole parental rights & responsibilities? In the advice world, it is certainly something we see, & there is nothing an alleged father can do to force the mother to include him on the birth certificate.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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