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OXFORD_SMOGGY

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Livingthedream

OXFORD_SMOGGY wrote: »

Tickets have been removed, please PM or email [EMAIL="furnis2003@yahoo.co.uk"]furnis2003@yahoo.co.uk[/EMAIL] for further details if interested.

Just thought I'd remind you of gliders3560's correct statement.

glider3560 wrote: »

It is a breach of Section 21 of the Railway Byelaws to buy/sell tickets, except by an authorised person in the course of his duties.

Just thought you'd like to know

So please don't actively tout you tickets on MSE as you could get the website into big trouble.

If you want to get rid of them try Gumtree or Freecycle both these site are not as strict as ebay.

dzug1

If OP really has a day return ticket then it's definitely not an advance ticket (which are invariably singles) and short travel is normally allowed.

I don't believe you can buy day return tickets on that route though, so who knows.

glider3560

dzug1 wrote: »

If OP really has a day return ticket then it's definitely not an advance ticket (which are invariably singles) and short travel is normally allowed.

I don't believe you can buy day return tickets on that route though, so who knows.

The ebay listing had an itinerary from a TOC website for an advance ticket.

moonrakerz

wealdroam wrote: »

There is a law (don't know what it is called) which states that unfair terms in contracts are unenforcible.

When will this ridiculous farce be aired in court?

I am afraid you have fallen into usual trap of thinking that any Law applied to any subject can be dragged across to any other subject.

This is obvious by you saying:- "There is a law (don't know what it is called) ".
If you don't even know what it is called you don't stand much chance of pressing home your argument.

Who says this is unfair - YOU ?

If this "ridiculous farce" were to be done away with, there is one certain outcome - cheap off peak train fares would vanish - is that what you would like to see ? This will deprive the rail companies of revenue that they earn during quiet periods - which will then cause peak ticket prices to rise even higher - a master stroke !!

It has been aired in Court on numerous occasions - and upheld. It is quite clear, when you buy an Advance ticket you agree to the terms and conditions that accompany this type of ticket.
Exactly the same applies to Airline tickets - don't see Stelios or or that nice Mr O'Leary getting too worried about "unfair terms".

I really do wish people would look at something properly and understand it before making completely off the mark comments and totally unhelpful suggestions.

wealdroam

moonrakerz wrote: »

I am afraid you have fallen into usual trap of thinking that any Law applied to any subject can be dragged across to any other subject.

This is obvious by you saying:- "There is a law (don't know what it is called) ".
If you don't even know what it is called you don't stand much chance of pressing home your argument.

I couldn't be bothered to look it up before, but it is the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977.
I am not trying to press home any argument. Just discussing things... that's all.

moonrakerz wrote: »

Who says this is unfair - YOU ?

No, a court of law would decide.
Of course, being a civil matter, it can only do that if an alleged errant passenger is taken there by the railway company.

moonrakerz wrote: »

It has been aired in Court on numerous occasions - and upheld.

Please be good enough to cite one example where a railway passenger has been found guilty in a court of law for finishing a railway journey early. I believe this has never been tested.

moonrakerz wrote: »

It is quite clear, when you buy an Advance ticket you agree to the terms and conditions that accompany this type of ticket.

Yes, that is quite clear.
But it is not so clear whether those terms and conditions would be deemed acceptable by a court... using the above mentioned Act.

moonrakerz wrote: »

Exactly the same applies to Airline tickets - don't see Stelios or or that nice Mr O'Leary getting too worried about "unfair terms".

Well that does make me smile.
Not sure that there are many opportunities to leave either of those gents' aircraft before they land.

moonrakerz wrote: »

I really do wish people would look at something properly and understand it before making completely off the mark comments and totally unhelpful suggestions.

Entirely agree.

:rotfl:

Livingthedream

wealdroam, was on about the following Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 and it's more up to date partner The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 both of which could be used against a train company, but as of yet, have not. Shame it would make a great court case.

Couple of points the Banks thought their charges were fair, how wrong were they. The Credit card companies' thought their charges were fair, how wrong were they too.

Edit: I do type too slow sometimes, wealdroam already answered.

dzug1

Livingthedream wrote: »

Couple of points the Banks thought their charges were fair, how wrong were they..

They have yet to be ruled unfair

dzug1

Livingthedream wrote: »

wealdroam, was on about the following Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 and it's more up to date partner The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 both of which could be used against a train company, but as of yet, have not. Shame it would make a great court case.

Problem is the rules were not made by the train companies, but by the government in the form of the rail regulator. Doesn't mean they are not open to challenge, but it does mean they have greater legal backing.

Livingthedream

dzug1 wrote: »

They have yet to be ruled unfair

True, there was no ruling, but they must have been fair, else why would the banks pay out millions?

dzug1 wrote: »

Problem is the rules were not made by the train companies, but by the government in the form of the rail regulator. Doesn't mean they are not open to challenge, but it does mean they have greater legal backing.

Agreed, but only in a criminal court, their bylaws don't work in a civil court.