Ed Miliband wins Labour Leadership

marklv

There are still four and a half years till the next general election. A lot can happen before then, and a Lib Dem rebellion is still a possibility.

GeneHunt_2

marklv wrote: »

So you want three centrist parties. Great for democracy!! :rotfl:

What's so funny?

Elections are won from the centre. Labour won under Blair by appealing to the centre. The Tories "won" under Cameron, when he (and Osbourne) shifted to the centre. Michael Foot, Michael Howard and William Hague all lost because they pandered to their hardcore voters (and were personally unappealing in many ways).

nearlynew

marklv wrote: »

At last, common sense! Nearly true, but not quite. It's the so-called 'centrists' in the three main parties who are the biggest liars and thieves. The only honest politicians are those of the far-left and far-right, because at least they have principles and ideals. All the others are there to be bankrolled by the 'hidden powers' in the British establishment.

No.

They are ALL lying thieves.


The ones on the extremes might talk a good game but in reality they're all the same.




Hey, that last bit even rhymes.

GeneHunt_2

marklv wrote: »

There are still four and a half years till the next general election. A lot can happen before then, and a Lib Dem rebellion is still a possibility.

It "was" a possibility. Lib Dem voters are not going to flock to a Labour Party that has moved to the left.

Kohoutek

marklv wrote: »

Before attacking the young Miliband, remember that this guy has a first class degree from Oxford.

So what? So has Cameron mate.

When you're supposed to be a candidate for running the country, experience is far more important than your degree classification.

Ed's CV:

Oxford
Harvard
Harriet Harman's speechwriter
Gordon Brown's speechwriter
MP for Doncaster North
Energy Minister (briefly, achievements?)

Why can political parties select people that have had a life outside politics? Cameron and the other Labour candidates are not much better in that respect, but the idea of Ed Milliband being qualified to run the country with his experience is absurd.

kabayiri

Kohoutek wrote: »

Why can political parties select people that have had a life outside politics? Cameron and the other Labour candidates are not much better in that respect, but the idea of Ed Milliband being qualified to run the country with his experience is absurd.

I agree.

A degree in politics to me is a degree in self serving acts disguised as something else.

I'd much rather the next leader of Labour to be a straight talking gruff Yorkshire/Welsh/wherever person who had a background in science/engineering/industry.

Like it or not, we need more people skilled in IT and engineering, and things which earn this country money and reputation abroad.

All we seem to have from the Labour lot over the past decade is right-on Outreach Lesbian Coordinator roles.

The next leader needs to go live in Bradford or similar for 6 months and work out why a large chunk of parents and children have given up completely with the idea of working.

Anyway, I believe they are in Manchester for a few days; time to stock up on a few eggs.

GeneHunt_2

Kohoutek wrote: »

Originally Posted by GeneHunt
Before attacking the young Miliband, remember that this guy has a first class degree from Oxford.

Errrr - I never wrote that quote that you've attributed to me?????????

hallmark

Much as I don't like the thought of another Labour Govt anytime soon, I don't think you can discount the possibility of there being one: A left-win OldLabour style party might appeal to a lot of people after 5 years of the spending cuts that are necessary.

That being said, it does feel a bit like 1980 all over again. Country broke, Tories in power & getting ready to cut spending everywhere, Labour no pretence of being anywhere but firmly on the left. Only difference is this time round we don't have any decent alternative comedy.

Kohoutek

GeneHunt wrote: »

Errrr - I never wrote that quote that you've attributed to me?????????

Sorry, I've no idea how that happened. Must have been a glitch in the forum software. Changed.

GeneHunt_2

hallmark wrote: »

Only difference is this time round we don't have any decent alternative comedy.

Michael McIntyre's pretty funny....