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Sorry to ask but need MATTRESS advice on La Romantica & other Brands

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  • My oh hates to be too hot in bed, I know you have said previously that coolmax is a gimmi but what about clima smart?

    There is a shop fairly close that sells the beds but the only memory foam one they do is Violet but it has bonnell open coil springs are these type of springs not up to much? The shop doesnt do latex at all, Im quite surprised that they dont do madrid as this seems to be the most popular from la romantica.

    What would you think of a memory foam topper to make our current bed more comfortable?
  • Avoid foam stuff if you hate heat. Latex may be ok but i duno. Make a new topic maybe and ask about latex and heat see if people have them and can offer an opinion.
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    SkeeterUK wrote: »
    Avoid foam stuff if you hate heat. Latex may be ok but i duno. Make a new topic maybe and ask about latex and heat see if people have them and can offer an opinion.

    Both reflex foam and memory foam can be quite warm. So obviously the warmest is reflex foam with memory foam. Mattress with full size steel springs and memory foam aren't too bad as long as the memory foam isn't too deep.

    Latex foam is far cooler than either memory foam or reflex foam. However you need to beware, because there are many mattresses out there that have just a thin layer of latex (or sometimes synthetic latex which isn't cooler) which is then bulked out with reflex foam. So the reflex foam can still cause a heat build up.
  • Im still on learning about beds and on the look out for a new one!!

    Can anyone tell me what the guage of springs means? Does this only apply to coil springs? is it the length and thickness of the metal used? Sorry i dont really understand and would appreciate it id someone could explain it.

    Also just to make sure I have all of the correct info....if we go for a memory foam or latex what exactly do we need to look for i.e. 1000 to 1800 pocket springs (not foam encapsulated?!) and everything else , if someone wouldn't mind writing a little list of what to look for and what this all means? :-/

    thank you so much
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    edited 23 September 2010 at 10:15AM
    Im still on learning about beds and on the look out for a new one!!

    Can anyone tell me what the guage of springs means? Does this only apply to coil springs? is it the length and thickness of the metal used? Sorry i dont really understand and would appreciate it id someone could explain it.

    Also just to make sure I have all of the correct info....if we go for a memory foam or latex what exactly do we need to look for i.e. 1000 to 1800 pocket springs (not foam encapsulated?!) and everything else , if someone wouldn't mind writing a little list of what to look for and what this all means? :-/

    thank you so much

    The gauge of the springs is used more in the description of open coil sprung mattresses. It relates to the thickness of the steel used in the springs. A 13.5 gauge spring unit is medium, and 12.5 gauge is firm. However even with each type of spring the firmness can be varied by the use of different densities and types of quilting.

    As for memory foam mattresses:
    The most common memory foam mattresses on the market are the reflex foam and memory foam type. However the reason they are the most common is because any idiot can make one, and therefore loads of companies have sprung (please excuse the pun) up to jump on the memory foam band wagon. All they do is take a slab of reflex foam, then glue a layer of memory foam to it. Most of them then vacuum pack and roll them up to make them cheap to transport. there are also quite a few imports from China that don't meet European standards, and should be avoided.

    Then there are the open coil sprung with memory foam type. This type give equal support to the reflex/memory foam type, but are much cooler due to the fact that air can circulate through the spring layer, and dissipate the heat from the memory foam.

    The best type for support are the pocket sprung with memory foam type, as the pocket springs will contour to your body, and then the memory foam will actually mould to your shape giving even support without causing pressure points. With this type of mattress you have to be very careful, as there are quite a few on the market that contain the reflex foam encapsulated type of pocket springs. These springs are usually smaller than the full size steel pocket springs, and are inferior as far as support goes. I have even seen them with plastic or even foam springs. As long as you go for one with full size steel pocket springs, then air should be able to circulate through the spring layer.

    Most memory foam mattresses on the market are non turn, and they will tell you that this is for your convenience. This is actually complete rubbish, and the real reason is because the memory foam is the most expensive part of the mattress. Non turn mattresses won't last as long as a two sided turnable mattress, especially if they contain pocket springs. But there are two sided pocket sprung/memory foam mattresses on the market.

    The memory foam layer should be between 2" and 2.5" deep (2" if you don't like to be too warm in bed), and the optimum density should be between 60 and 70kg per m3.

    Some memory foam mattresses come with an option of climate control fabrics like Climasmart or Outlast, that help to regulate the temperature.


    As far as latex foam goes, first of all make sure the mattress contains natural latex, and not synthetic or a blend. Another thing you have to watch out for (which is more common with the big brands) is mattresses that only contain a very thin layer of latex, often about 1". Also beware of terms like 'zonal support', as this often means that it only has latex in small areas of the mattress.

    To be of any real benefit the latex needs to be 2" (50mm) deep, and needs to cover the whole of the sleeping surface. Also as you probably know by now that I don't like non turn mattresses (especially ones with pocket springs), as they don't last as long. So I would advise to go for a two sided mattress.

    Make sure you buy from a seller who has a good returns policy, as it will be in their interest to make sure that you make the right purchase the first time.

    Stay well away from the big brand names, and the big chain stores, then you will get far more for your money.
  • Tim,

    could you kindly provide a link to all the resellers of La Romantica mattresses, especailly the Madrid.

    And I am sure that is in no way violates the MSE forum rules.
  • vkusuman wrote: »
    Tim,

    could you kindly provide a link to all the resellers of La Romantica mattresses, especailly the Madrid.

    And I am sure that is in no way violates the MSE forum rules.

    I'm afraid I can't, because that could be viewed as advertising. The best thing to do would be to contact La Romantica.
  • ncd
    ncd Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Thanks for your excellent clear advise Tim, me and my OH are currently looking for a new bed/mattress, so I'm going to take a print out of your post above to the bed shops so we don't get told loads of sales rubbish. Many thanks
  • rosie383
    rosie383 Posts: 4,981 Forumite
    I bought the venice with climasmart and absolutely love it. Have had it for 6 months now and enjoy going to bed and never wake up with a sore back any longer, and never feel too hot in it. It seems like a very good quality bed to me.
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  • I have a la romantica Violet which I am not happy with. I have rejected under the Distance Selling Regulations but the company refuse to refund my money. They want me to send the mattress for "Inspection" first before I receive a refund. The mattress is at home in perfect condition but I want my refund before I allow them to collect. What kind of inspection is done at a factory that the van drivers cannot do?

    Can anyone advise on Distance Selling Regs? They seem to clearly state that the seller does not have the right to hold back on refund pending receipt of goods.
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