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Possible new tenants to view property which you are renting?
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Yes, they say this:
"During the tenancy to permit the landlord with or without Agents and any other persons on giving 24 hours notice to inspect the property at all reasonable times for the purpose of any sale of or mortgage of the property or any further lettings of the property"
My wife did end up agreeing to leave work early today because they threaten with not paying the deposit to my in laws and they also called her stupid.0 -
My wife did call the LA.
They got very abusive shouting "rubbish" at anything she said and said they were in their rights to enter because it says in the contract and that was it.
No qualifications, specific knowledge, training etc required before someone sets themselves up as an LA.
Your in-laws do not have to take rudeness or threats from the LA :it is important to deal with this issue in writing & keep copies.
If a T refuses access for, say, maintenance work or "repairs inspections" then the LA/LLs only option is to get a court order via the civil courts to try to enforce access.
Any LA/LL who simply lets himself in to a property (or tries to), especially in the face of a confirmed lack of consent from the T, runs the risk of a charge of tenant harassment, which is a criminal offence.
Tell the LA to check out the definition of a tenancy in Street v Mountford[1985]The decision of this House in Street v. Mountford [1985] A.C. 809 is authority for the proposition that a "lease" or "tenancy" is a contractually binding agreement, not referable to any other relationship between the parties, by which one person gives another the right to exclusive occupation of land for a fixed or renewable period or periods of time, usually in return for a periodic payment in money.At the bottom of the letter telling the LA what the inlaws are happy to offer (if anything) add the words cc:Private Sector Housing Officer, xxx Council , and send a copy there too.
If your inlaws kindly agree to *some* viewings at specific times, with them present, then the LA needs to understand that they will have to go with those times & that arrangement or not have access at all.
Changing the lock barrel is no big deal - it does not cause any damage to the door or the lock
If you want a bit of light relief on the topic see here;)0 -
Have a quick read of the tenancy agreement.
Many agreements have the option of showing new tenants around up-to two months before the tenancy expires.
A good LL or LA will work with you, does not want any trouble - looks bad in front of new tenants etc. Also remember who will be offering you a reference for your next tenancy.
Good luck
What the contract says is irrelevant. Tenant has legal right to refuse entry except by agreement or in emergency. The contract might also say the tenant has to pay to have repairs done to the roof if it leaks, and the landlord will hold the deposit - those too would not be valid contract terms.
Change the locks! If they don't want to do this
Stay in and refuse entry.
If they use force, call the police and make it clear you fear violence (forcable entry is clear indication of violence).
The alternative is to roll over and do whatever the agent says.
Final suggestion: Be at home and tell prospective tenants they are leaving because can't handle the landlord from hell, the agents from hell, the unfixed faults in the property, the terrible neighbours etc etc.0 -
I did write a letter and this morning they informed us that they have the right and will be going to teh house no matter what.
So they say they will let themselves in in all the appointments if needed with no regards to the fact that we said no to it.
Changing locks (I read in some forums to do so) is not something my in laws are ready to do.
What can they do?
Change the locks.
LL is not allowed in without agreement.
or
Put huge note everywhere inside saying "LL is entering property without consent "0 -
The LA said that each time they cannot enter the property they will keep a log and deduct the deposit for "loss of income" from the landlord.
Can they do this?0 -
The LA said that each time they cannot enter the property they will keep a log and deduct the deposit for "loss of income" from the landlord.
Can they do this?
they can do it, but only in the same way that they can enter your in-laws home and remove all of their property - i.e. ILLEGALLY. Your in-laws can dispute the deduction from their deposit if the LA actually carry out this threat.
The LA is determined to make life difficult for your in-laws one way or another. Your in-laws need to choose which battles they want to have, or whether they are willing to let the LA/LL get away with this bullying.0 -
The LA said that each time they cannot enter the property they will keep a log and deduct the deposit for "loss of income" from the landlord.
Can they do this?
I don't believe so.
Is the deposit protected? This LA sounds like a nightmare - I think you may want to consider contacting the landlord direct.0 -
I cannot contact the landlord as their contract only gives the landlords (a couple) names. Not an address. Just says "care of" and then the details of the letting agency.
I did call the deposit scheme which confirmed that the deposit is protected.0 -
I cannot contact the landlord as their contract only gives the landlords (a couple) names. Not an address. Just says "care of" and then the details of the letting agency.
The agent must provide their address to the tenant if requested:
"Some landlords prefer to deal through agents and remain anonymous as far as their tenants are concerned. However, under the provisions of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1985, tenants of dwellings in England & Wales, who make a written request to an agent, have a right to the landlord's name and address.
This information must be supplied within 21 days. The legislation refers only to the landlord's name and address, not his telephone number or any other form of contact details. "
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/landlord's_address.htmI did call the deposit scheme which confirmed that the deposit is protected.
That takes care of the BS "loss of income" threat, then, as IMO there's no way they'll be able to claim that.0 -
They're entitled to a proper address for the landlord else they don't have to pay the rent.0
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