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Graham White Solicitors, Michael Sobell, Roxburghe

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  • AlexisV
    AlexisV Posts: 1,890 Forumite
    Doesn't really make any difference. Neither Graham White or Roxburghe have brought proceedings against anyone and never will.
  • anewman
    anewman Posts: 9,200 Forumite
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    Wasting their time is fun though, bit like scam baiting :D
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    I prefer the short and sweet [and to the point]...."**** off, in fact **** right off."
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why then you're as thick and stupid as the moderators on here - MSE ForumTeam
  • The Roxburghe and Graham White Scam

    IF YOU EVER RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THESE PEOPLE YOU MUST READ THIS.

    Who are they?

    They are one in the same. Roxburghe debt collectors and Graham White solicitors operate out the same building, but like to fool you they are separate. Graham White solicitors are a one man band solicitors company run by Michael Sobell (a corrupt council worker at Hackney county council). He uses the name Graham White so that when you search for it, it brings up the real Graham White solicitors company and fools you into believing you are dealing with a real firm of solicitors. They employee monkeys that send you the letters and ring you. However, the monkey in Roxburghe debt collectors is sitting on the next desk to the one that sends you the letters from Graham White Solicitors.

    When does a debt go to these fools?

    It goes to these fools when the debt is unenforceable (over 6 years old), when paperwork has been lost, or when it legally is questionable. If you are going to be taken to court for something, it would have happened by now by the people you originally owed the debt to. If these scammer are now contacting you, it will never go to court and you have nothing to worry about.

    Should I argue or question the debt?

    No! They do not care whether you owe the money or not. Someone has sold them a debt without any evidence or paperwork. They have no way of checking or validating any claims or arguments you make and will therefore ignore them.

    Why does it go to these fools?

    Because they are a last resort. They know they would never will in court and therefore rely pure of on scare and intimidation tactics.

    How do they operate?

    Stage 1: They send you a string of letters to scare you. They will never tell you why you owe the money and for what. The reason for this is that they do not want you know the massive amount of charges they have added. Charges that would never be accepted if it went to court. They will pretend they have powers they do not, such as making you bankrupt, having the right to send debt collectors to take your goods (which requires a warrant of execution) or even lie and pretend that it has gone to court already and that you have lost the case.

    Stage 2: They will start calling you. All the usual tactics will apply.

    Why would they never win in court?

    1. Because they use scare and intimidation tactics – which would cause the judge to throw the case straight out.
    2. A court would never accept the massive fees and charges they add
    3. The debts they chase often do not exist or are unenforceable, eg the paperwork is lost and are over 6 years old

    How do you deal with them?

    You don’t! Point blank, point simple. You store and ignore their letters and hang up the phone. You never discuss anything with them where they trick you and draw you into traps.

    What will they never do?

    They will never go to court. They will never send debt collectors to your house. They cannot make you bankrupt or any other of the threats they make.

    Why is it pointless paying?

    Because the companies that use them will have already damaged your credit rating. It’s too late. They also have no way of making you pay.
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    Er, so in summary..............ignore, ignore, ignore????
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  • fb1969
    fb1969 Posts: 568 Forumite
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    roxgra wrote: »
    Why is it pointless paying?

    Because the companies that use them will have already damaged your credit rating. It’s too late.

    Complete and utter garbage!
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    fb1969 wrote: »
    Complete and utter garbage!

    I agree, was doing well until that last paragraph
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • sassy_one
    sassy_one Posts: 2,688 Forumite
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    GW is a no body.... he will get what is coming after the investigation currently against him/she/them :T
  • sarahg1969
    sarahg1969 Posts: 6,694 Forumite
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    sassy-one wrote: »
    GW is a no body.... he will get what is coming after the investigation currently against him/she/them :T

    I don't think he'll care. He's an old man, allowing Roxburghe to use his name as a front. I remember a long time ago, a firm local to me was under investigation. The guy fronting the company wasn't the one running it, but he was allowing others to operate in his name. He was a very sick man, and had nothing to lose.
  • Crabman
    Crabman Posts: 9,942 Forumite
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    sassy-one wrote: »
    GW is a no body.... he will get what is coming after the investigation currently against him/she/them :T

    The investigation arm of the body that represents solicitors' interests... don't hold your breath ;)
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