BBC strike threat

Physio88

Torby wrote: »

As you seem well informed about employment and pensions at the BBC, perhaps you could enlighten us all as to exactly what the staff will lose out on? The media unfortunately when they talk about all the public sector strikers never seem to tell us what they will be losing out on.

Do you know what the typical pension projection for BBC employees is, do you know what a typical BBC employees salary will be.

Then if you care to compare with those in the private sector, you may discover that (as a previous poster has stated) welcome to the real world, where others have to take pay cuts and the threat of redundancies as a matter of course without any say in the matter ...it's a cut throat world out there and everyone has to cut their cloth accordingly and accept cuts if the business is to keep going.


so tell, what does a typical BBC employee earn, say a cameraman or continuity announcer...?

I don't have any figures of BBC employee salaries, I also do not see the relevance. If you have been paying money into a scheme, then to have this money taken away then it is wrong. I am fully aware that this happens in life but that doesn't mean you shouldn't fight it if you are in a position to be able to do so, which conveniently the unions are.

Torby

@ cosmeticjunkie, as you are anonymous on here, care to divulge your salary and details of your pension, forty eightieths, 30/60ths 3/4 your final salary?

You may find when these figures are divulged to the general public and held in comparison to other workers, strikes may not have the public support union reps believe they will have....market forces are strange beasts...

@physio88, the relevance is, this has been happening in the private sector for years, cuts and cost savings have been promised at the BBC for years but never came, they are part funded by the licence payer, who has no say in the matter and you'll probably find that for what they do, BBC staff are well paid and have reasonable pensions...

as I say, offer the man in the street recently made redundant in the private sector, to do a job in the BBC he is qualified to do at a lower rate of pay, chances are he'll take it...public sector....welcome to the real world.

cosmeticjunkie

Torby wrote: »

@ cosmeticjunkie, as you are anonymous on here, care to divulge your salary and details of your pension, forty eightieths, 30/60ths 3/4 your final salary?

You may find when these figures are divulged to the general public and held in comparison to other workers, strikes may not have the public support union reps believe they will have....market forces are strange beasts...

I'd rather not divulge my salary but can assure you that even now jobs with my skill set are advertised on jobserve with a starting salary greater than my current salary, some even have a company car and BUPA which I would never get from the BBC on my pay grade.

My pension figures depend on years of service so currently after paying in for 20 years I'd get 20/60ths of my final salary when I leave the BBC or on retirement.

I'm not near retirement yet and would expect the fund to be in a much better position when I do.

This change only really affects employees on a non management grade that have worked for the BBC for a long time, as I say the scheme was closed to new members over 5 years ago.

Torby

@cosmeticjunkie, fair enough, but the someone can be employed at a higher salary than you at a private company, the job may last 20 years or 6 months and the business ceases trading and you are out on the street....I've yet to hear of the BBC going bust or thousands of staff being made redundant...the BBC is on safe ground as are the bulk of their employees, I hope they push on with their strikes, I hope they show their political bias, I hope there are changes to abolish the licence fee and they are forced to compete on equal terms with other broadcasters ... then as a previous poster has already hinted, welcome to the real world...no pay rises, poor pensions and redundancy just around the corner....sometimes people just don't realise when they are well off...

cosmeticjunkie

I'm not quite sure why you think that we don't have redundencies, in the past month in my department we have had redundencies, in the early 90s most of the IT department was made redundant. In the last few years we have been under constanct threat of being outsourced as many departments have, which is redundancy without the payout.

We do live in the real world and we are all worried about our jobs but we just want what we were promised and what we have paid for.