We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

One Huge Mistake

2

Comments

  • Kilty_2
    Kilty_2 Posts: 5,818 Forumite
    well maybe im seeing it as poor in comparison to the diesel version

    The 1.8 engine in the Astra isn't fantastic - I get better fuel economy from a 2.0 in a bigger car, but it's well publicised what the economy is like.

    Given the extra a diesel version costs you'd be better off just bearing the cost - it's also far more reliable than a 1.9 diesel.
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    well maybe im seeing it as poor in comparison to the diesel version

    But the idea that petrol engines use considerably more fuel than diesels can't be a surprise to you, surely?
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    You'd have paid more for a Diesel, so much more in fact that it would negate any fuel savings.
    The VX diesels can get VERY expensive to run in later life. A DMF (dual mass flywheel) for example would probably set you back £1500+, a DPF (Diesel particulate filter) even more than that.

    The 1.8 is VX's most reliable engine.... Provided you look after it!
    “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”

    <><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Don't forget to like and subscribe \/ \/ \/
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,622 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    We find we are putting £40 a week in the car and not really going anywhere with that

    You'd probably be saving about £10 a week by having a diesel then.

    I'd stick with the petrol version, rather than take the massive hit to change now.
  • ...and spending about £2000 a year when it goes wrong... Stick with the petrol...!
  • thanks guys you have made me feel better bout my lil petrol car now thanks
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    The cdti Astra has it's faults, if you are really concerned then get it converted to LPG, that will be cheaper in the long run.
  • Kilty_2
    Kilty_2 Posts: 5,818 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    The cdti Astra has it's faults, if you are really concerned then get it converted to LPG, that will be cheaper in the long run.

    How much does a decent conversion cost these days? Surely you'd need to be a pretty high mileage driver to see the benefit?
  • I hired a car for a week in the summer - was given a 1.6 Focus. Not only was it sluggish with brakes made out of wood, I barely got 30mpg out of it even on a decent run. It seems that while diesels have become highly efficient (my wife's Kia returns 55mpg+ with no effort), efficiency of petrol-engined cars hasn't moved on since the 80s - or maybe the engines are more efficient but cars are so much heavier now.

    I wonder what a modern diesel would return in a typical car of the early 80s?

    Not all petrol engines are equal - my petrol A4 can manage 44MPG on a run which isn't too bad at all IMO. MY dads petrol Avensis can also manage close to that.
  • BenL
    BenL Posts: 3,189 Forumite
    Kilty wrote: »
    How much does a decent conversion cost these days? Surely you'd need to be a pretty high mileage driver to see the benefit?

    £1600 for a 4 cylinder conversion to an Astra (1.6) using a quality PRINS kit. Cost only goes up if you have more cylinders.

    I save 4p a mile (£0.12 down to £0.08) so it takes 40,000miles to pay back.

    Using my real calculations it is less but the above is rough guide.

    Ben
    I beep for Robins - Beep Beep
    & Choo Choo for trains!!
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.